-ic vs. -ical

[Dr. Jamshid Ibrahim]

Originally Posted by LwyrFirat

Dear Dr. Jamshid Ibrahim,

I’ve an academic/ academical article which analyse the matter very deeply(44 pages)

I hope it would be satisfactory for you http://icame.uib.no/ij25/gries.pdf

Thank you very much LwyFirat. It is a very useful article.

[albertino]

Sometimes people use a noun modifier instead of an adjectival form of the same word. More often than not, there is no difference in meaning between the two but sometimes there is, such as The Education Bureau(which only tells us the Bureau is responsible for education) and an educational material(which otherwise tells us that the material is useful and helpful as far as education is concerned.

How to distinguish?
When a noun modifier is used, it is usually used to avoid the evaluative, descriptive or emotional characterisitcs of the primary functions of an adjective. Therefore, a horror film vs a horrible film, and the construction site vs a constructive idea.

Sometimes this type of distinction between evaluative and non-evaluative can also be made bewteen two similar adjectives like the one you raise:
an economic policy means a policy for managing the economy, whereas an economical housewife means a housewife who is clever at using her money.

(not a teacher)

[Dr. Jamshid Ibrahim]

Originally Posted by albertino

Sometimes people use a noun modifier instead of an adjectival form of the same word. More often than not, there is no difference in meaning between the two but sometimes there is, such as The Education Bureau(which only tells us the Bureau is responsible for education) and an educational material(which otherwise tells us that the material is useful and helpful as far as education is concerned.

How to distinguish?
When a noun modifier is used, it is usually used to avoid the evaluative, descriptive or emotional characterisitcs of the primary functions of an adjective. Therefore, a horror film vs a horrible film, and the construction site vs a constructive idea.

Sometimes this type of distinction between evaluative and non-evaluative can also be made bewteen two similar adjectives like the one you raise:
an economic policy means a policy for managing the economy, whereas an economical housewife means a housewife who is clever at using her money.

True, the adjective is subjectively restrictive. The evaluative idea can apply to some ic/ical adjectives. Using a noun modifier maybe is a way to avoid the subjectivity of the adjective but I think it is also typical Germanic. Thanks for this interesting contribution. LwyrFirat's PDF file is very helpful as well.

[albertino]

Originally Posted by Dr. Jamshid Ibrahim

True, the adjective is subjectively restrictive. The evaluative idea can apply to some ic/ical adjectives. Using a noun modifier maybe is a way to avoid the subjectivity of the adjective but I think it is also typical Germanic. Thanks for this interesting contribution. LwyrFirat's PDF file is very helpful as well.

Jamshid, you perseverance in finding out the truth is amazing and admirable.
You've set a good example for me.

[Dr. Jamshid Ibrahim]

Originally Posted by albertino

Jamshid, you perseverance in finding out the truth is amazing and admirable.
You've set a good example for me.

Thanks Albertino