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22-Nov-2008, 17:31
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Current Location: france First Language: english Member Type: English Teacher | | verb groups i'm having trouble with an assignment for my linguistics course. here's a sample from the exercise and the instructions:
-analyse in depth the underlined verb groups
include: a precise description of the immediate constituents, analysis of each marker of operation, show manipulations
“Another of your letters arrived at my house yesterday,” the doctor announces. “That makes four now”. He says this in a colourless, insipid voice, in the way he says most things.
It is only the significant pause which follows that alerts me I am expected to respond, and distracts my attention from the scene outside his office window. For several minutes I have been watching two children as they tramp stiffly off into the distance. They lead me to think of my daughter, and to wonder if she misses my visits."
I'm not looking for someone to do it for me. I need help with the step by step process.
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24-Nov-2008, 02:01
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24-Nov-2008, 05:13
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Current Location: Phnom Penh First Language: English Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: verb groups Are you only to describe the verb phrase or the other elements in the sentence, showing the modification, etc? | 
25-Nov-2008, 06:01
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Current Location: france First Language: english Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: verb groups I only have to describe the verb phrase. Here's the little bit I've worked out so far:
"have been watching"
aux + verb
immediate constituents:
have been (can be further reduced to 'have' and 'been')
watching
markers:
'ing'
I'm lost because I'm in the independent study program at this university and I don't have access to the lecture notes. I have a book, the assignment but no models to follow, no one to explain the process to me. The profs don't post their lectures.
Any help is appreciated. | 
27-Nov-2008, 14:59
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Current Location: North Carolina First Language: English Member Type: Other | | Re: verb groups You're doing fine so far. Post more, and we'll tell you how you are doing. | 
27-Nov-2008, 18:03
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Current Location: Phnom Penh First Language: English Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: verb groups To be honest, I would query the question- are they sure it's right? For one thing, they use the plural verb groups, so I am wondering if there should be more; after all, an indepth analysis of 'have been watching' is not that easy.
Btw
"have been watching"
aux + verb
There are two auxiliaries here, and shouldn;t you go into whaqt the auxiliaries are doing here? | 
28-Nov-2008, 06:00
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Current Location: france First Language: english Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: verb groups there are a few more examples of verbs I have to analyze in the exercise. that's why it's 'groups.'
I got more info from the professor and she was able to help me a bit. I'm still a trying to make sense of it all. I'm in their independent study program so I do all the work at home. The program is fairly new and they haven't figured out how to organize getting class notes to us.
for the auxilliaries:
have+en
be+ing
the marker "ing" tells us that this is something in progress and "en" fixes that activity in the past
Is that right?
I'm going to demonstrate a manipulation with the past continuous:
"was watching" | 
28-Nov-2008, 18:39
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Current Location: france First Language: english Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: verb groups This is an update of my work. I'm going to email this to the professor tonight, so if anyone can give me some feedback in the next hour or so it will let me know whether or not I'm heading in the right direction.
Thank you.
(utterance in my first post)
Context:
A man or a woman is in a doctor’s office. While the doctor is speaking, he/she turns her attention away from him to watch children playing outside.
Indentification:
Present Perfect Continuous
Have in present simple, Be in the past participle and Watch in the continuous.
Have-S+ Be-EN+V-ING
Analysis:
The narrator of this passage is also the subject in this utterance. His/her relationship to the situation is intimate, allowing us witness the events directly through his/her perspective.
The first verb is have, in the present simple. Alone, it signifies possession (“I have a car”), something obtained or achieved (“I have a university degree” --years of hard work finally culminated in something, or “I have the paper in my hand”--the speaker picked up or went, looked for and found the paper). In “Linguistic et Grammaire de l’Anglais,” Lapaire and Rotgé hypothesize that “have” can function abstractly as well by integrating the predicate into the realm of the subject. | 
29-Nov-2008, 02:19
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Current Location: North Carolina First Language: English Member Type: Other | | Re: verb groups Note: We are able to witness the event throught the eyes of the narrator. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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