British Pronunciation Of Double (T) words?

Hello everyone, im new here, my name is Lord Jenkins, and I come here in hoping one of you will kindly provide me the answer for a question of mine! :D


Ok, a lot of people i know, pronounce words like little, kettle, bottle, dental, without pronouncing the double T. Now, they do swap the usual T sound, to somthing else, its not glottal stop or American (D), i can't make out the sound, its sort of like a (K) sound.


Most people up north where i am, would pronounce the T, or not pronounce the T at all. It seems the more posh, southern people pronounce double T words with this unique sound, news readers do it too. I have no idea has the sound is created...


Ive provided this British English sound dictionary to help you further understand my question. Ive used the example word (battle) to demonstrate the use of this sound.

Note the absence of the voiced T's.
http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=battle


Also, try typing in the other words i mentioned which require you to make this unique sound - dental, kettle, beetle, bottle, metal, mental, little.


Thank you in advance!



Kind regards

Lord Jenkins

The toffs seem to inject a "hul" sound for the second t.

Something like Ket-hul for the kettle example.

:-) The hul sound is said very quickly though, like it is just flipped in there with emphasis on the "u" rather than the "h".

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Originally Posted by DougLewis

The toffs seem to inject a "hul" sound for the second t.

Something like Ket-hul for the kettle example.

:-) The hul sound is said very quickly though, like it is just flipped in there with emphasis on the "u" rather than the "h".

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I know what you mean, but if you view that website i posted, listen to the pronouciation of the TT, the letters are not pronounced with another letter, but with just a sound... im just trying to find out what sound is used, and how its created. :)

Still searching around for answer, and its strange really because even with all the Phonetics videos ive watched, and research ive done, ive never found any information about this.

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Originally Posted by LordJenkins

I know what you mean, but if you view that website i posted, listen to the pronouciation of the TT, the letters are not pronounced with another letter, but with just a sound... im just trying to find out what sound is used, and how its created. :)

Still searching around for answer, and its strange really because even with all the Phonetics videos ive watched, and research ive done, ive never found any information about this.

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I've listened to the files for 'battle' and 'bottle' and they sound similar to me, at least at the phonemic level. They are both /t/.

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Originally Posted by Raymott

I've listened to the files for 'battle' and 'bottle' and they sound similar to me, at least at the phonemic level. They are both /t/.

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Ok thanks for your reply :)