Pronunciation of /ŋ/ and "of".

[TheNewOne]

1) In words ending with "ng" (e.g. evening, verb+ing) "ng" is pronounced as /ŋ/, but I can't make this sound, so can it be pronounced as /n/? Is it a mistake to pronounce /g/ in the end of such words?

2) How do you pronounce the word "of"?

TIA

[thatone]

1) In words ending with "ng" (e.g. evening, verb+ing) "ng" is pronounced as /ŋ/, but I can't make this sound, so can it be pronounced as /n/? Is it a mistake to pronounce /g/ in the end of such words?

2) How do you pronounce the word "of"?

TIA

1)According to Wiktionary, that sounds exists in Russian too!

Velar nasal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

функция [ˈfuŋkt͡sɨjə]

In fact it exists in a lot of languages, it's just that a lot of people don't realize it (IMO).

2) "of" is always /əv/ or /ə/ (depending on the word it precedes) when unstressed and /ʌv/ or /ɑv/ when stressed.

[birdeen's call]

The problem may be not pronouncing the sound /g/. In Russian /ŋ/ is always followed by /g/ or /k/, as in my language. It was difficult for me too.

[TheNewOne]

thatone
I know that this sound exists in Asian languages, but I never thought that [ˈfuŋkt͡sɨjə] had this sound (I thought that it was just /n/), so it turns out that I can make this sound? I thought that /ŋ/ was more nasal than [ˈfuŋkt͡sɨjə].
Does "of" always have /v/ in the end? Can it be /əf/?

birdeen's call
How did you improve your /ŋ/?

[birdeen's call]

thatone
I know that this sound exists in Asian languages, but I never thought that [ˈfuŋkt͡sɨjə] had this sound (I thought that it was just /n/), so it turns out that I can make this sound? I thought that /ŋ/ was more nasal than [ˈfuŋkt͡sɨjə].

/ŋ/ and /n/ are both nasal. The difference is in the placement of your tongue.

When you pronounce /ŋ/, you touch your soft palate with the back of your tongue-- (more or less) the same place that you touch when you pronounce /g/. (That's why they are both velar consonants.)

When you pronounce /n/ , you touch your alveolar ridge with the tip of your tongue.

birdeen's call
How did you improve your /ŋ/?

My problem was that I often pronounced the /g/ sound after /ŋ/, even when it shouldn't be there. I practiced by uttering ŋŋŋŋŋŋŋŋ and trying not to do the plosive at the end.

[thatone]

Does "of" always have /v/ in the end? Can it be /əf/?

It's always with a /v/.

[TheNewOne]

birdeen's call

My problem was that I often pronounced the /g/ sound after /ŋ/, even when it shouldn't be there. I practiced by uttering ŋŋŋŋŋŋŋŋ and trying not to do the plosive at the end.

I don't have this "g" problem, I think I just pronounce /ŋ/ not so nasal as it should be, I guess it's closer to /n/. BTW in the word "king" pronounced by a native speaker I hear the slight "g" sound.
Why do people replace "g" with ' ? Like comin' instead of coming.
thatone
Thanks!

[5jj]

BTW in the word "king" pronounced by a native speaker I hear the slight "g" sound.

A /g/ is pronounced and heard in some dialects, but not in Standard English. You may think you hear it, but it isn't there,

[5jj]

It's always with a /v/.

'Of' does indeed always end with a /v/ sound. However, when followed by an unvoiced consonant, the /v/ may become slightly devoiced, bringing it closer to /f/. Try to listen for this in 'of course', 'a pinch of salt'.

[thatone]

'Of' does indeed always end with a /v/ sound. However, when followed by an unvoiced consonant, the /v/ may become slightly devoiced, bringing it closer to /f/. Try to listen for this in 'of course', 'a pinch of salt'.

But isn't that a feature of /v/ in general though? Like in /hæftə/.
Plus in "a pinch of salt" of can be reduced to /ə/.