Question about English vowel diagram

[Raymott]

Yes, it doesn't matter what system her teacher uses, but it means that she cannot speak of [a], or indeed any other phonetic symbol without showing the chart. This is what IPA was supposed to facilitate - communication about pronunciation in a textual form.
Her teacher can use [a] for 'cat' as long as he keeps that transcription symbol in the classroom, and as long as his students don't require help from elsewhere.
It's unfortunate and confusing that these other charts use IPA symbols.
I think IPA is far more useful for someone who is merely learning English. A phonetician or phonologist would be more interested in more specific charts.

PS: Anyhow, I'll take a closer look at these brave new charts before I comment further.

[birdeen's call]

It's unfortunate and confusing that these other charts use IPA symbols.
I think IPA is far more useful for someone who is merely learning English. A phonetician or phonologist would be more interested in more specific charts.

I agree that it can be very confusing, but I don't think there's an easy way around it. IPA symbols denote mere sounds primarily. Denoting phonemes and other things must be their secondary function, because they are thought to be international and langauge-independent. But it's impossible to make a dictionary entry or to explain English pronunciation to a learner using a merely phonetic transcription. This would be much more confusing, because of the number of variants' configurations. So if we wanted to have different sets of symbols for different notions, we would have to give up the thought of using IPA in dictionaries.

[symaa]

Her teacher can use [a] for 'cat' as long as he keeps that transcription symbol in the classroom, and as long as his students don't require help from elsewhere.
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He transcribe cat like this /kæt /, but he did not give as examples concerning/ɑ/ when we did exercices, also he did not explain in a detailed way .
Anyway thank you very much ,I re-read your replies many times in order to understand very well.
All the best for you

[symaa]

Could you please have a look at this video
YouTube - ‪Part 8 Learning the IPA chart‬‏

[birdeen's call]

Could you please have a look at this video
YouTube - ‪Part 8 Learning the IPA chart‬‏

I have watched the video. Do you have any questions? It seems to me that this man is from New Zealand, but I may be wrong.

[Raymott]

It seems to me that this man is from New Zealand, but I may be wrong.

I'd say you're right.

[symaa]

Firstly, thank you for your continual help.

So,the speaker in this video uses symbols as in this diagram.


-He pronoune the word turn very different, is it beacause he is from New Zealand?

-I wonder if it is right to use /ɑ/ /ɜ/ and /ʊ/ without the colon in the transcription?


NB:It is so difficult to understand an english native speaker, whereas you can understand every single word from a french native speaker.


Thank you in advance.