Help with the /ʧ/ sound

[birdeen's call]

I see, you both belong to the very careful speakers that Gimson mentions.

“Variants. Some very careful speakers, however, use /t/ and /d/ + /j/ in words which otherwise frequently have /ʧ/ or /dʒ/, e.g. gesture, culture, virtue, statue, righteous, fortune, literature, question, posture, Christian, soldier, grandeur.” (Gimson)

I really dislike this word, "careful", used in such context. I'm pretty sure that most of these speakers aren't much more careful than others. This is just how they speak.

[mara_ce]

I´ve got Gimson´s Pronunciation of English, Revised by Alan Cruttenden, Fifth Edition. It´s a book for anyone studying the sounds of English or teaching English pronunciation to non-native speakers.

The “-ture” examples with the sound /ʧ/ are given as word-medial (intervocalic) e.g. feature, and word-medial (consonant preceding) e.g. gesture, posture, juncture, capture, lecture, culture, adventure.

I copied part of the variants from page 161. I agree with you. Maybe “very careful speakers” isn´t appropriate, but that is what the book says.

[Orella]

I have got the words I needed. Thanks a lot for the help.

[BobK]

I´ve got Gimson´s Pronunciation of English, Revised by Alan Cruttenden, Fifth Edition. It´s a book for anyone studying the sounds of English or teaching English pronunciation to non-native speakers.

The “-ture” examples with the sound /ʧ/ are given as word-medial (intervocalic) e.g. feature, and word-medial (consonant preceding) e.g. gesture, posture, juncture, capture, lecture, culture, adventure.

I copied part of the variants from page 161. I agree with you. Maybe “very careful speakers” isn´t appropriate, but that is what the book says.

No problem I imagine Gimson's choice of the word that BC diliked was defensive - I'd be surprised if he wasn't one of those 'more careful speakers'.

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