Re: Help with the /ʧ/ sound
archer, teacher, matches, torches,
Remember that some speakers use /tj/ in statue.
Re: Help with the /ʧ/ sound
Thank you, so much. Did you mean that statue is not a good example?
Re: Help with the /ʧ/ sound
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Orella
Thank you, so much. Did you mean that statue is not a good example?
I would prefer examples in which the pronunciation is /ʧ/ for everyone. Possibly, being a /tj/ man myself, I am biased.
Re: Help with the /ʧ/ sound
Thanks, that is a good thought and I am adopting that in to the word list that I am creating to teach sounds. Could you give me one another example too with the sound /ʧ/ in the middle of the word.
Re: Help with the /ʧ/ sound
merchant, orchard, feature, gesture, posture, mischief, juncture, capture, lecture, culture, adventure, pilchard, richer, wretched,
Re: Help with the /ʧ/ sound
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mara_ce
merchant, orchard, feature, gesture, posture, mischief, juncture, capture, lecture, culture, adventure, pilchard, richer, wretched,
All the '-ture' ones are excluded by a related version of 5jj's objection. In a greenhouse once I saw a pitcher plant and pointed to it, saying 'Look - that's pretty as a pitcher'. But the pun wasn't very good, because that's not how I pronounce 'picture'.
b
Re: Help with the /ʧ/ sound
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BobK
All the '-ture' ones are excluded by a related version of 5jj's objection.
Gimson gives the examples "ture" as word-medial (intervocalic or consonant preceeding).
Daniel Jones´dictionary shows "picture" with the /ʧ/ sound.
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mara_ce
Gimson gives the examples "ture" as word-medial (intervocalic or consonant preceeding).
Daniel Jones´dictionary shows "picture" with the /ʧ/ sound.
Maybe so, but I didn't learn to speak from a reference book ;-) Like 5jj, I'm a /tjǝ/ man; and there are many many of us.
b
Re: Help with the /ʧ/ sound
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BobK
Maybe so, but I didn't learn to speak from a reference book ;-) Like 5jj, I'm a /tjǝ/ man; and there are many many of us.
b
I see, you both belong to the very careful speakers that Gimson mentions. ;-)
“Variants. Some very careful speakers, however, use /t/ and /d/ + /j/ in words which otherwise frequently have /ʧ/ or /dʒ/, e.g. gesture, culture, virtue, statue, righteous, fortune, literature, question, posture, Christian, soldier, grandeur.” (Gimson)