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Bales's read as /beilziz/?
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The assault case was dismissed and didn't involve any members of Sgt. Bales's family, Mr. Browne said Friday.
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Re: Bales's read as /beilziz/?
It can be read like that, though many would drop the -iz despite the way it's written.
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Re: Bales's read as /beilziz/?
If I read that aloud, what you would hear would be "did not involve any members of Sergeant Bales family".
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Re: Bales's read as /beilziz/?

Originally Posted by
emsr2d2
If I read that aloud, what you would hear would be "did not involve any members of Sergeant Bales family".
If I read it aloud, it would be the same.
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Re: Bales's read as /beilziz/?
If you pronounce it as "Sergeant Bales Family" how do you know his name is Bales and not Bale? They are both common surnames. I would always pronounce Bales's as /beilziz/
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Re: Bales's read as /beilziz/?

Originally Posted by
Tullia
If I read it aloud, it would be the same.
I agree.
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Re: Bales's read as /beilziz/?
In speech, citation forms are usually heard when they are pitch accented or emphasized. In which case, yes, apply the standard formula (sibilant +'s = sibilant + i + s/z). Besides this, there is another phenomenon, which kinda elides the similar looking syllable.
career center >cur center (check Language Log » Why it can be hard to wreck a nice beach )
social security > so' security (as heard in the financial media)
absolutely right > absly right
Bales's family > Bales family
One can ask "how to distinguish social security from campus security, career center from computer center, Bale's family from Bales's family". You don't need to emphasize these words, if the audience can figure out--this is an easy way of describing. There are books that deal with emphasis, focus (both broad and narrow), and accent. Just because some accent reduction course or ESL book does not describe these phenomena, it doesn't mean that such phenomena do not exist.
Last edited by raindoctor; 24-Apr-2012 at 22:34.
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Re: Bales's read as /beilziz/?
Would you ever pronounce the /iz/ - for example, in "that's James's jacket" or "Kate Moss's husband"? James jacket or Kate Moss husband sound like Tarzan-speak to me! Is it a Brit/US thing?
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Re: Bales's read as /beilziz/?
I always pronounce the /ɪz/.
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