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    In American English, when the sounds d and t preceded by n, they can be dropped. Will you provide me a link in which I find such words with silent letters, please?

    Example:


    International


    Advantage

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    Default Re: When the sounds d and t preceded by the sound n

    Quote Originally Posted by Odessa Dawn View Post
    In American English, when the sounds d and t preceded by n, they can be dropped.
    No, not quite. Speakers of American English don't drop the 'd' in words such as 'independent', 'indoctrinate' and 'indecisive'. I'd say that 'handsome' is an exception.

    Anyway, I don't think that such a list exists. Why do you need this list? You already know the 'rule' so you can apply it to words like 'interview' and 'internet' if you wish to do so.

    Edit. Come to think of it, this 'rule' you mention does not apply to all words. A speaker of American English would not drop the 't' in 'ontology' and 'intimate'. For some reason I can imagine an American omitting the 't' in 'international' but not in 'intimate'.
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    Default Re: When the sounds d and t preceded by the sound n



    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Sandwich View Post
    Why do you need this list?
    While I was listening to this video, I got confused when the word advantage was pronounced. To be honest, had not transcription been available, then there would have been miscomprehension.


    PS: Have you ever come across the word history being pronounced in this way/ˈhɪʃri/?

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    Default Re: When the sounds d and t preceded by the sound n

    Quote Originally Posted by Odessa Dawn View Post
    While I was listening to this video, I got confused when the word advantage was pronounced. To be honest, had not transcription been available, then there would have been miscomprehension.
    I see what you mean. I'd say that in standard American English one wouldn't leave out the 't' in 'advantage'.

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    PS: Have you ever come across the word history being pronounced in this way/ˈhɪʃri/?
    Sorry, I can't read IPA.
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    Default Re: When the sounds d and t preceded by the sound n

    Quote Originally Posted by Odessa Dawn View Post
    PS: Have you ever come across the word history being pronounced in this way/ˈhɪʃri/?
    Never, but, if your previous threads are anything to go by, you will now produce an example.
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    Default Re: When the sounds d and t preceded by the sound n

    In American English, when the sounds d and t preceded by n, they can be dropped. Will you provide me a link in which I find such words with silent letters, please?

    Example:


    International


    Advantage

    Internet


    Handsome
    I have just seen this video and I think he is a very good teacher.
    Here is the link:Q&A Time: "d" "t" "k" cancellation (English sound cancellation) - YouTube
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