Ça

[Odessa Dawn]

Ç; voiceless palatal fricative

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Is the below transcription correct?

Ça/tʃa/

Context: "Plus ça change..."
More: Plus ça change (plus c'est la même chose). - definition in British English Dictionary & Thesaurus - Cambridge Dictionary Online

[bhaisahab]

Ç; voiceless palatal fricative

More: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...chart_2005.png

Is the below transcription correct?

Ça/tʃa/

Context: "Plus ça change..."
More: Plus ça change (plus c'est la même chose). - definition in British English Dictionary & Thesaurus - Cambridge Dictionary Online

Yes.

[BobK]

Really It's a fricative, not an affricate. Everyone I've ever heard say it - French and English - say /sa/. Francophones use a different vowel (and English speakers rarely manage the [y] of plus), but the fricative part is a simple /s/ (which again is probably different as between English and French speakers, but not in a way that stops the fricative being a fricative)....

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[Tdol]

I use /s/.

[konungursvia]

Sorry, but /tʃa/ is incorrect as a transcription of ça.

It should read /sa/.

(Edit: and it is a contraction of 'cela.')

Ç; voiceless palatal fricative

More: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...chart_2005.png

Is the below transcription correct?

Ça/tʃa/

Context: "Plus ça change..."
More: Plus ça change (plus c'est la même chose). - definition in British English Dictionary & Thesaurus - Cambridge Dictionary Online

[BobK]

/tʃa:/ is a drink.

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[Tdol]

And a bit of a dance.

[bhaisahab]

I'm sorry, I don't know anything about phonetics and I misunderstood the symbols.

[5jj]

There is some confusion here.

The letter ‘ç’ in the French word 'ça' is pronounced [s].


The IPA symbol [ç] is very close to the English /tʃ/

[BobK]

And a bit of a dance.

And as for a 'Tea Dance' ...

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