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23-Sep-2006, 07:00
| | Senior Member | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Country: Tunisia
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Current Location: Tunis First Language: Arabic Member Type: Student or Learner | | pronunciation of "ed" in adjectives Dear teachers,
Is there a reason why the suffixe "ed" in participles / adjectives is pronounced "id" whether the consonant is voiced or voiceless ?
example: "wicked, learned, beloved, aged"
Would you please give me more?
Many thanks,
Hela | 
23-Sep-2006, 08:37
| | Editor, UsingEnglish.com | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Country: UK
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Current Location: Phnom Penh First Language: English Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: pronunciation of "ed" in adjectives Learned- the participle is pronounced 'd', but the adjective is 'id'
Beloved/aged- the pronunciation varies accortding to context and the need for the extra syllable, so poetry often has it | 
23-Sep-2006, 12:04
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First Language: Russian | | Re: pronunciation of "ed" in adjectives Hi hela,
Three more adjectives: crooked, three-legged, blessed [id].
Sorry, I can't answer your question why.
Rgs | 
23-Sep-2006, 13:49
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Current Location: England (South East) First Language: English Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: pronunciation of "ed" in adjectives This is inconsistent:
'wicked' - two syllables, /wikid/
but 'licked', picked' and 'ticked' - the rule seems to be 'if it's a verb, it's pronounced /-ikt/' (not a general rule of course, just a way of describing what happens to words spelt '-icked')
But at least the pronunciation of '<consonant>icket' is predictable:
'cricket', 'picket', 'rickets', 'ticket', thicket', 'wicket' - all sound /-ikit/
It's just one of those things you have to learn - sorry.
b | 
23-Sep-2006, 14:01
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Current Location: Tunis First Language: Arabic Member Type: Student or Learner | | Re: pronunciation of "ed" in adjectives Thank you for your help!
Best wishes | 
23-Sep-2006, 14:54
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Current Location: SE England First Language: British English Member Type: Other | | Re: pronunciation of "ed" in adjectives
How embarrassing...I think I use a schwa...
MrP
PS: Welcome back, Hela! I haven't seen you for a while. | 
24-Sep-2006, 09:57
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Current Location: England (South East) First Language: English Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: pronunciation of "ed" in adjectives Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPedantic
How embarrassing...I think I use a schwa...
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. | The embarrassment is all mine. I keep forgetting how many idiolects there are.
b | 
07-Feb-2007, 13:45
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Current Location: New Delhi First Language: Hindi Member Type: Other | | Re: pronunciation of "ed" in adjectives We frequentlly use the tongue twister:
'Round and round the rugged rocks the ragged rascal ran'
But can somone help me with a sentence that uses 'aged' as a verb?
Thanks | 
07-Feb-2007, 14:17
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Current Location: England (South East) First Language: English Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: pronunciation of "ed" in adjectives Quote:
Originally Posted by hela Dear teachers,
Is there a reason why the suffixe "ed" in participles / adjectives is pronounced "id" whether the consonant is voiced or voiceless ?
example: "wicked, learned, beloved, aged"
Would you please give me more?
Many thanks,
Hela | Hang on Hela - that's not right: 'wicked' is an adjective, not a past participle. There are several '-icked' participles - licked, kick, picked, ticked etc, and they're all pronounced as one syllable - /ıkt/. you're right about the pronunciation of 'wicked' though: two syllables, the last being /ıd/.
b | 
08-Feb-2007, 04:42
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Current Location: Phnom Penh First Language: English Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: pronunciation of "ed" in adjectives Quote:
Originally Posted by devyani.rajput We frequentlly use the tongue twister:
'Round and round the rugged rocks the ragged rascal ran'
But can somone help me with a sentence that uses 'aged' as a verb?
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