close - pronunciation

[Humble]

Hi, ,
I understand The shop is close =near. If it’s supposed to mean it doesn’t work, IMHO it’s a mistake, a grammar calque from The shop is open. I think I’ve seen on some doors – Closed.
Cheers

[MikeNewYork]

Originally Posted by Humble

Hi, ,
I understand The shop is close =near. If it’s supposed to mean it doesn’t work, IMHO it’s a mistake, a grammar calque from The shop is open. I think I’ve seen on some doors – Closed.
Cheers

Yes, the shop is close = the shop is near.

The shop is closed = the shop is not open.

The shop is open = the shop is doing business.

The shop is opened = can only be used as passive voice with an agent.

The shop is opened by the owner.

[Lenka]

Originally Posted by j4mes_bond25

I'd rather say "The shop is close". Although, you may also say, "The shop had closed".

Originally Posted by Humble

Hi, ,
I understand The shop is close =near. If it’s supposed to mean it doesn’t work, IMHO it’s a mistake, a grammar calque from The shop is open. I think I’ve seen on some doors – Closed.
Cheers

Originally Posted by MikeNewYork

Yes, the shop is close = the shop is near.

The shop is closed = the shop is not open.

The shop is open = the shop is doing business.

The shop is opened = can only be used as passive voice with an agent.

The shop is opened by the owner.

Well, what is the truth, then? In my opinion, "closed" is right. But you shouldn't ask my opinion - I am not a native speaker and my English is still quite... simple and sometimes full of mistakes .

James is a native speaker (I suppose), Mike is a native speaker too.... The native speakers must know what really is and is not correct! But you're both telling the same in a different way. Is it a problem of dialects or how is it caused?

[BobK]

Originally Posted by j4mes_bond25

Strictly speaking, Closeness is a "noun", however, Close "could be" considered as noun when it refers to some "street name" (however, as long as I'm aware, it's usually happens only in British English), such as "Cooper Close", "Barker Close", etc.
Polysemy would be the right word to describe the phenomenon.

So, to summarize, "close" can be either a verb (with a /z/: to close a box/to close a deal) or an adjective (with an /s/: a close friend) or a noun (with either an /s/ - Barker Close - or a /z/ to bring the discussion to a close). Easy, isn't it?

Originally Posted by j4mes_bond25

I'd rather say "The shop is close". Although, you may also say, "The shop had closed".

But they mean different things. It's not a question of taste. In the first sentence, you're saying that the shop is nearby. In the second sentence, the shop would be closed (the opposite of open) - however far away it was.

b

[j4mes_bond25]

Originally Posted by BobK

But they mean different things. It's not a question of taste. In the first sentence, you're saying that the shop is nearby. In the second sentence, the shop would be closed (the opposite of open) - however far away it was.

b

I agree.

Course, if you wish to use "close" as NOT OPEN, then you'd say "The shop is closed".

[j4mes_bond25]

Originally Posted by Lenka

Well, what is the truth, then? In my opinion, "closed" is right. But you shouldn't ask my opinion - I am not a native speaker and my English is still quite... simple and sometimes full of mistakes .

James is a native speaker (I suppose), Mike is a native speaker too.... The native speakers must know what really is and is not correct! But you're both telling the same in a different way. Is it a problem of dialects or how is it caused?

If you meant "close" as NOT OPEN, you'd say, "The shop is closed", however, if you meant "close" as "NOT FAR IN DISTANCE, then you'd say "The shop is close".

I assumed that you meant to ask "close" as "NOT FAR IN DISTANCE" & hence said "The shop is close", but otherwise, if you meant it in terms of close as NOT OPEN, then the right way would be "The shop is closed".

[Lenka]

Thank you for the explanation!