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Why do many native speakers often shift the stress to another syllable when reading slowly or speaking slowly?
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example:
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"lesSON ONE" instead of "LESson ONE"
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the tone sequence is like this:
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"lesson one"
[mid tone - high tone - falling tone] instead of [high tone - high tone - falling tone]
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Really? Interesting. I'd like to hear more. Where did you find your data?
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Really? Interesting. I'd like to hear more. Where did you find your data?
Maybe they change the tone, not stress? It sounds to me like that they're shifting the stress, because I pronounce stressed and unstressed syllables with a certain tone.
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LESson (IPA /'lɛsən/) [first syllable, high tone; second syllable, low tone]
lesSON (IPA /lɛ'sən/)[first syllable, low tone; second syllable, falling tone] (with stressed schwa)
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Perhaps the tone sequence example should have been:
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"lesson one"
[mid tone - mid-to-high rising tone - high-to-low falling tone] instead of [high tone - high tone - high-to-low falling tone]
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Really? Interesting. I'd like to hear more. Where did you find your data?
Hmm - sounds very odd to me too

I suppose this sort of intonation might happen if the speaker were correcting someone who'd said 'lessen': then they might say /le'sɔn wʌn/ - but I'm not convinced that this could ever happen, as the spoken /lesənz/ sound the same - so the corrector wouldn't know what to correct.

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Actually, that native speaker said "lesson three" but I changed it to "lesson one" because I thought they can have the same tone pattern. Now I will tell where I heard it: from an English-teaching video in a screen where it displays "LESSON THREE", and a native speaker reads the words "LESSON THREE" in this tone sequence:
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"LESSON THREE"
[mid tone - rising tone - falling tone]
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I would pronounce it in the sequence "[high tone - high tone - falling tone]".

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Maybe they change the tone, not stress?
Right. That'd be my guess too.
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Afterthought:

From the context, dihen, might the teacher be paging through a book, and not finishing the word /lesən/ until he's found the right page?

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I would pronounce it in the sequence "[high tone - high tone - falling tone]".
Dihen, check out this site (scroll down to Tone). Look for examples of and explanations for:
  • fall
  • low-rise
  • high-rise
  • fall-rise
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Dihen, check out this site (scroll down to Tone). Look for examples of and explanations for:
  • fall
  • low-rise
  • high-rise
  • fall-rise
Is that about British English or American English?
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Good question.

Does it matter? (I'm not sure.) You could ask the author: Hacettepe Üniversitesi Eğitim Fakültesi İngilizce Öğretmenliği Bölümü

Mehmet ÇELİK, 2003 Learning Stress and Intonation in English: A practical course book for intermediate and advanced students. Ankara : Gazi Publications.

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