How to transcribe this word?

[BobK]

Arrgh What about this:

justifiability: Casi - are you sure of the first consonant? I'd make it /ʤ/
first vowel: /ʌ/
triphthong: /aɪə/ though the schwa is sometimes realized as /ɪ/

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[Buddhaheart]

Arrgh What about this:



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Although /awc/ is recognized as one of the 5 triphthongs in NAE, in justifiability //®vs.tw.faw.c0bw.lw.ti+/, it’s not considered as such even in the Webster’s or the Gage Canadian dictionary and definitely not in the EPD or the LPD. It's in fact syllabified as a separate syllable in these dictionaries.

[Casiopea]

Bobk, yes, on your choice of first consonant (Thanks for the help - I need to get IPA that I can see ); yes, on wedge as the first vowel and, no, on the triphthong, at least to my Canadian ears. Again, we differ in dialect.

To me, the word <justifiability> has seven syllables,

1. ju
2. sti
3. f[ai] (diphthong)
4. V (V = lax vowel i in sit or schwa)
5. bil
6. i
7. ty

Moreover, I can separate syllables 3 and 4 by [1] adding a glide, and [2] by using the expletive insertion rule (insertion occurs at a syllable boundary, usually just before the primary stressed syllable, but it doesn't have to).

[1] Glide: ju-sti-f[ai]-yi-bil-ity
[2] Expletive: ju-sti-[fai]-bloomin-i-bil-i-ty

Lastly, this source separates syllables 3 and 4.

All the best.

[BobK]

...

To me, the word <justifiability> has seven syllables,


Lastly, this source separates syllables 3 and 4.

All the best.

To me too, now I think about it. Thanks, as ever, for the links.

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[Casiopea]

To me too, now I think about it .

Agh. Don't give up that easily! I would like to learn more about the triphthong you mentioned. I believe you might just have a good case there, but I need to know more about it before I can say whether or not I agree completely. (Ignore the dictionary link. That's just one (of many) that has copied from other dictionaries.)

[BobK]

Agh. Don't give up that easily! I would like to learn more about the triphthong you mentioned. I believe you might just have a good case there, but I need to know more about it before I can say whether or not I agree completely. (Ignore the dictionary link. That's just one (of many) that has copied from other dictionaries.)

I know how frustrating it can be, but sometimes I just don't put up a fight - especially when I think I'm just plain mistaken. But I'll try to say something about the 'triphthong'.

It exists in the non-rhotic version of 'fire'. In the case of "justifiability", however, the BE pronunciation is just the concatenation of "justify" and "ability", and 3 + 4 = 7 (syllables).

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[Casiopea]

...the concatenation of "justify" and "ability", and 3 + 4 = 7 (syllables).

You know, that was my last argument, the one I chose not to add in because it didn't provide for the triphthong.

Fire, eh? Interesting. Could the triphthong be a matter of the <r> environment?

[BobK]

I think that's it.

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[çakırpençe]

Good practice ı see here
ı want to learn how you can write the phonetic symbols of the wovels or consonants (diphtongs,triphtongs,etc...) as @dtommy could do by writing
the symbol /'ɪrɪteɪtɪŋli:/ (iritatingly)
Do we need to get a special kind of mechanism on our keyboard ??

[çakırpençe]

oh so sorry :(
ı get it by this link location
http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/pr...c-symbols.html