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Old 26-Apr-2007, 06:16
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Still confused with how to pronounce exactly those pronounciation. (e.g: worked, played, wanted, matched, fixed....etc)
Do you know any websites provided exercises for pronounce: /d/ /id/ /t/ /s/ /z/ /iz/,
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Still confused with how to pronounce exactly those pronounciation. (e.g: worked, played, wanted, matched, fixed....etc)
Do you know any websites provided exercises for pronounce: /d/ /id/ /t/ /s/ /z/ /iz/,
thanks in advance.
Have we discussed this before? I can only find the thread leading to http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/pr...tml#post157220
but I remember another one. I don't remember a site with exercises on this, though Casiopea posted a good one with sounds. I'll keep a look-out.

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Old 26-Apr-2007, 14:18
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Default Re: /d/ /id/ /t/

Wow, that's weird. I taught that today! It's really simple:


I don't have the source at hand. This is not from me and I'm taking no credit whatsoever.
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I mean, well, there must be some rules of pronouncing. Like before consonant, voiceless, etc....
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Default Re: /d/ /id/ /t/

hi,

i don't think you had clear answers! i hope mine is?

the pronunciation of 'ed' depends on the sound that comes before it:

/t/ before k p s sounds (walked)

/d/ ///// n d ///// (phoned)

/id/ //// t///// (started)


i hope i've helped
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/d/ after a voiced phoneme (except /d/ itself): /b/, /d/, /g/, /v/, /l/, /r/, /z/, /m/, /n/, /g/ and some more (fricative d as the 'th' in 'bathe', d long zed as the 'j' in 'jam', velar n as 'ng' in 'sing') + all the vowels.

/t/ after a voiceless phoneme (except /t/ itself): /p/, /t/, /k/, /f/, /s/ and some more (esh as the 'sh' in 'shock', t esh as 'ch' in 'cheer' and thorn as 'th' in 'bath').

/Id/ after /t/ and /d/.

Hope that helps ^^ That's at least what I've been taught.

PS: Sorry for not using that 'phoneme-writing' tool, but I neither have enough time nor I see the phonemes in my browser.
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Default Re: /d/ /id/ /t/

Belly T, it doesn't have anything to do with consonants and vowels.

Just look at the table I provided. I think all the information is there.

You must understand this from a phonetic point of view.

The way an infinitive ends with a certain sound is how you determine how to pronounce the -ed variation.
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Fricative and aff.....?
There's been an argurment, could you please tell me what they are?
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Fricative consonant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Affricate consonant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thanks, Noego - I'll use that summary. (I don't understand why it didn't close the discussion - it's clear and comprehensive).

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