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04-Jan-2008, 05:13
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why S sometimes pronounce /s/ and sometimes /z/?
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04-Jan-2008, 06:10
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Originally Posted by M.Mozaffary  why S sometimes pronounce /s/ and sometimes /z/?
thanks | There's no hard and fast rule of pronunciation in English. It all depends on hearing of native speakers like every other language in the world. Though there are some certain rules that help non-native speakers or learners to master the correct pronunciation. I, therefore, suggest to you that you listen to native speakers by watching television programmes, listening to the radio or some CDs and cassettes.
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04-Jan-2008, 08:49
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Are you referring to words such as realize, organize, and words ending -ize and -ise? | | The Following User Says Thank You to David L. For This Useful Post: | |
04-Jan-2008, 11:34
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He is referring to IPA. | | The Following User Says Thank You to AstroNox For This Useful Post: | |
04-Jan-2008, 12:09
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Originally Posted by M.Mozaffary why S sometimes pronounce /s/ and sometimes /z/?
thanks | The general rule, [s] after a voiceless sound and [z] after a voiced sound. For example,
cat[s]
dog[z]
Read more here ... | | The Following User Says Thank You to Soup For This Useful Post: | |
08-Jan-2008, 05:08
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Originally Posted by Soup The general rule, [s] after a voiceless sound and [z] after a voiced sound. For example,
cat[s]
dog[z]
Read more here ... | Dear Soup, how about the general use of "s" in English, for example: sistser [s] but re sist [z] Why? syllable [s] but clum sy [z] why?
v ast [s] but w as [z]why?
in sert [s] but re serve [z] why? seat [s] but di sease [z] why?
ab sent [s] but pre sent [z] why?
There are so many more examples like the above. Do they have any rules?
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Dawood
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08-Jan-2008, 05:15
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Originally Posted by David L. Are you referring to words such as realize, organize, and words ending -ize and -ise? | Dear David, please tell us the rule[s] of ize and ise if there are. It'll certainly increase our knowledge.
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20-Jan-2008, 13:11
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Dear dawoodusmani,
sister [s]
The next sound [t] is voiceless
resist [z]
It sits between two voiced sounds
syllable [s]
[s] is a sound in English. No pattern here.
clumsy [z]
[z] sits between two voiced sounds, [m]..[y]
vast [s]
The next sound [t] is voiceless
was [z] no reason
insert [s]
It sits at a boundary, in+sert (from Latin serere to link together). Modern insert is a fused form. So, no pattern here today.
reserve [z]
It's also from Latin, but came into English from Middle French; hence the [z].
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20-Jan-2008, 13:14
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Originally Posted by dawoodusmani Dear David, please tell us the rule[s] of ize and ise if there are. It'll certainly increase our knowledge.
Regards!
Dawood | There is a great deal written about that. This may be of some help to you. ize or ise - Google Search | | The Following User Says Thank You to Soup For This Useful Post: | |
23-Jan-2008, 18:41
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Just to throw a wrench/spanner....
Why
to close [z] --verb--
yet...
too close [s] --adj.-- | | The Following User Says Thank You to fondacey For This Useful Post: | | | |
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