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Old 03-Apr-2008, 15:46
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Default Long " a " sound

Hi , teacher

I was studing the way of pronunce "a " in such words

so I have to make it long >

for example _ paid , train ...etc ,here we make the " a " with long sound

and the other vowel is silent .

my Q is what about _ day , pay , when the " a " comes befor " y "
why I have make it long ??
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Default Re: Long " a " sound

When two vowels go walking, the first usually does the "talking"

Sometimes "y" is considered a vowel.
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Old 04-Apr-2008, 08:38
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When two vowels go walking, the first usually does the "talking"

Sometimes "y" is considered a vowel.
SO ,

the reason here that " y " is considered vowel .

I hope if you can tell what are the conditions that I have to consider " y " as a vowel

thank you in advance
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Old 04-Apr-2008, 10:53
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Default Re: Long " a " sound

I'm a Brit, but not a teacher.

In Arabic, the name "David", leaving aside "f" vs "v", is spelt with the 2nd letter as "ya" i.e. the arabic "y".

It pre-assumes the (not normally written) short "a" that forms part of the dipthong "ai", so "David" would be written, if the short vowel marks are added (albeit from right to left) "dayfiyd" (and with the "f" possibly being replaced by the Farsi "v"). Without the short vowels, it would be "dyfyd"

In other words, it's not a long "a" that you are looking at in "train" etc, it's the "ai" dipthong.

More of a problem with the British English "a" is the fact that:
Northerners tend to pronounce words like "castle" with a short "a" sound, as in "cat",
whereas Southerners tend to pronounce the same "a" long, as in "car".

Hope this helps
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Default Re: Long " a " sound

wow

I have learned sth new

but to tell you the truth it was little complicated
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