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Old 18-Apr-2008, 14:32
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Default The diphthong in "smoke"

I know the American pronounciation of the diphthong in words like "smoke", "boat", "go" is produced as "OU", with the first part of the diphthong as a CLOSE "O", but I often hear an OPEN "O" too, for example the "O" of "dog". Can I pronounce it both ways? Does this depend on the speaker? or what?
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Default Re: The diphthong in "smoke"

An open “o” /]/ is not a diphthong. We pronounce the word “dog” as /d]+g/ or dY+g/, i.e., with the open “o” (the Cardinal vowel 6) or the script “A” (Cardinal 5) but never as a diphthong /c/ or /o/.
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An open “o” /]/ is not a diphthong. We pronounce the word “dog” as /d]+g/ or dY+g/, i.e., with the open “o” (the Cardinal vowel 6) or the script “A” (Cardinal 5) but never as a diphthong /c/ or /o/.
No, maybe you didn't get it. I meant to ask if the first part of the diphthong "OU" (like in "smoke") can be pronounce STILL as a diphthong, but with the first part (the "O" part) as a opened "O", instead of using the closed one; cause I heard pronounciations like this all the time.
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No, maybe you didn't get it. I meant to ask if the first part of the diphthong "OU" (like in "smoke") can be pronounce STILL as a diphthong, but with the first part (the "O" part) as a opened "O", instead of using the closed one; cause I heard pronounciations like this all the time.
Perhaps it would help if you gave examples of such words, where you heard them and whether the speaker was using a regional accent.
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Perhaps it would help if you gave examples of such words, where you heard them and whether the speaker was using a regional accent.
I got the video on my computer. How can I put it in the Internet?
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Default Re: The diphthong in "smoke"

Upload it on YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. . You need to create a free account for this though.
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Upload it on YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. . You need to create a free account for this though.
OK, thank you, I think it's easier and faster for me to give you the link to another website, COMING SOON , it's right the first sentence of the video, when he says:"..., it was time to go HOME" he pronounce "home" with a clear opened "o" here, doesn't he?
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Could anyone tell me if he pronounce "home" with an opened "O" (something like "hawm"), and, if he does, why?
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Could anyone tell me if he pronounce "home" with an opened "O" (something like "hawm"), and, if he does, why?
It's an American accent.
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It's an American accent.
I kinda know it's an American accent, I just wanted to make sure he pronounces an opened "O", but above all, WHY? I searched the Net but I didn't find this type of pronounciation. bhaisahab, what do you mean by saying it's an American accent, the accent in which he speaks or just this particular type of pronounciation?
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