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Old 11-May-2008, 01:31
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boots

are these words pronounced the same way, please?
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booths has <th> as in the word thank.
boots has <t> as in the word tank.
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booths has <th> as in the word thank.
boots has <t> as in the word tank.

hi,
I mean the pronunciation in the plural.
does booths' "ths" sound like the one in "months"?
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booths => -ths as in maths
months => -ths as in maths
months => -nths can be pronounced [ns], no <th>

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Just as we commonly elide the voiceless 'th' in 'months' to /-ns/, then we also elide voiceless and voiced 'th' in words like 'maths' and 'clothes', which come out similar to 'mass' and 'cloze' (with /-z/), but not exactly the same: the front of the tongue seems to move towards alveolar contact ever so slightly earlier and slightly more front nearer the teeth, influenced by the not-actually-pronounced 'th'.

The reason is that we can't seem to be bothered with the effort of pronouncing adjacent fricatives in the same consonant cluster when 'th' is involved, e.g.
maths = 'mass'
clothes = 'cloze'
sixths = 'sicks'
fifths = 'fiss'
booths = 'booos'
months = 'muns'
teethes = 'teeez'
loathes = 'looaaz'
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thanks a lot.
I guess the "th" is a challenge for any non-native speaker.
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