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Do AMericans pronounce " forty" as fordi or forti?
Mr= Mider or mister?
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Both, actually: for[D]y and for[t]y; mis[t]er, mis[D]er
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So when to use which?>
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Default Re: Forty in American English

from my previous knowledge, this highly depends on regional variation of accents in phonolog (pronunciation).


you could have a quick look at the underneath url,
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But American Accent Course (Ann Cook) says: The soft T is pronounced like a d, so why mister here?
Is the same true with doctor?
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Forty is either /fɔrti/ or /fɔ:ti/ (for non-rhotic speakers), or /forɾi/, where ɾ is an alveolar tap similar to [d].
"Mister" is
/mɪstə/, /mɪstər/, /mɪsɾə/, / mɪsɾər/
You should say / /f
ɔ:ti/ and /mɪstə/ unless you are very keen to adopt the American [r] sounds.
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But American Accent Course (Ann Cook) says: The soft T is pronounced like a d, so why mister here?
Is the same true with doctor?
Yes. Note that <t> occurs phonetically before a [r] and [i:], both of which are voiced and vocalic. In other words, they act like vowels, as syllabic elements:
mis'ter / mis'[dr]
doc'tor / doc'[dr]
for'ty / for'[di:]


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