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Old 13-Jul-2008, 15:21
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hello.
I need a little help with pronunciation..and to be more exact with the written script of phrases and sentences, because when we speak the whole sentece some words blend and the script looks differently
how should these sentences be written in phonemic script?

"I'm getting used to living in paris"
"would you mind if I opened the window"

I think the 1st one is /aImgetInjustElIvIn/
2nd /wudjEmaIndIfaIoupEndEwIndEw/
is that correct? of course I cant put in here the schwa sound so i showed it with 'E'
please help me
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Old 13-Jul-2008, 17:10
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hello.
I need a little help with pronunciation..and to be more exact with the written script of phrases and sentences, because when we speak the whole sentece some words blend and the script looks differently
how should these sentences be written in phonemic script?

"I'm getting used to living in paris"
"would you mind if I opened the window"

I think the 1st one is /aImgetInjustElIvIn/
2nd /wudjEmaIndIfaIoupEndEwIndEw/
is that correct? of course I cant put in here the schwa sound so i showed it with 'E'
please help me
Hi, lubiepaluszki!

I agree with you.
Well...I would make two minor adjustments.
So...it goes like this:

/wudjEmaIndIfaIoupEndEwIndou/

I'm not sure if it is the schwa sound.
And...I think there should be another phonetic alphabet for the one in red.
I can't type in phonetic alphabets, either. I'm sorry.

I'm not an expert on phonetics, so please forgive me if I'm wrong.
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Old 13-Jul-2008, 17:39
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thank u for help:))

can anyone else also check it?please:)
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Old 13-Jul-2008, 17:56
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hello.
I need a little help with pronunciation..and to be more exact with the written script of phrases and sentences, because when we speak the whole sentece some words blend and the script looks differently
how should these sentences be written in phonemic script?

"I'm getting used to living in paris"
"would you mind if I opened the window"

I think the 1st one is /aImgetInjustElIvIn/
2nd /wudjEmaIndIfaIoupEndEwIndEw/
is that correct? of course I cant put in here the schwa sound so i showed it with 'E'
please help me
I would say the following: (as RP pronunciation)
/aɪm gɛtɪŋ ju:s tu lɪvɪŋ ɪn pæɹəs/
I think that's what you've written, except you are dropping the g from -ing to in'.
/wʊd ju maɪnd ɪf aɪ oʊpənd ðə wɪndoʊ/ or
/wʊʤu maɪnd ...
/
ʤə maɪnd əf ...
I don't think leaving out the "th" in "the window" would be common.
You can use Lucinda Sans Unicode font here, even though it looks a bit ugly.
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Old 15-Jul-2008, 09:48
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Have a look at Tdol's top thread in the Pronunciation and Phonetics section.
There's a link to a useful tool for typing phonetic symbols..

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Old 20-Jul-2008, 10:53
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/aɪm gɛtɪŋ ju:zd tu lɪvɪŋ ɪn pæɹəs/, isn't it?
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Raymott, where did you find this wonderful IPA font?

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/aɪm gɛtɪŋ ju:s tu lɪvɪŋ ɪn pæɹəs/
/wʊd ju maɪnd ɪf aɪ oʊpənd ðə wɪndoʊ/ or
/wʊʤu maɪnd ...
/ ʤə maɪnd əf ...
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Raymott, where did you find this wonderful IPA font?
It's Lucida Sans Unicode. It's standard on Windows XP.
Windows Vista has Unicode symbols in Times New Roam, Arial, and Courier; so there's no excuse not to use IPA if you have Vista.
While it's possible to use the "phonetic typewriter", I use phonetic symbols frequently, and so I've made macros in Word (autoText with hotkeys) that make it easy.
For the last post, I wrote the answer in Word, and copied/pasted it into this window.
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Old 20-Jul-2008, 12:24
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/aɪm gɛtɪŋ ju:zd tu lɪvɪŋ ɪn pæɹəs/, isn't it?
No, almost no-one would pronounce both the [d] of ju:zd and the [t] of tu.
And saying the [t] devoices the [z] to [s]. This is called "regressive assimilation (a sound changes to assimilate to a following sound).
/aɪ ju:zd ə pɛn/ but /aɪm ju:s tu juzɪŋ a pɛn/
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Old 20-Jul-2008, 13:14
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[1] I'm getting used to living in Paris.
[2] Would you mind if I opened the window?
I can't seem to see the IPA fonts that you guys are typing--expect for the wonderful IPA in Raymott's one post. So, I hope you won't mind my adding my transcriptions to the thread. If they are identical to yours, it means we agree.

[1] [aj'æm'gɛtɪŋ'jus'tu'lɪvɪŋ'ɪn'pɑrɪs]
[2] [wʊd'ju'majnd'ɪf'aj'ɔpɪnd'ðə'wɪndo]
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