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13-Aug-2008, 20:32
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Current Location: Italy First Language: Italian Member Type: Student or Learner | | Pronunciation of 'often' Hello,
Are the two different pronunciations of the term 'often' (with or withouth an audible 't') regionally characterised? In other words, where in the English-speaking world is it more likely that I hear either?
Thanks a lot,
aaeaanw | 
13-Aug-2008, 20:56
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Current Location: New Zealand First Language: American English Member Type: Student or Learner | | Re: Pronunciation of 'often' Quote:
Originally Posted by aboutaseasyasanuclearwar Hello,
Are the two different pronunciations of the term 'often' (with or withouth an audible 't') regionally characterised? In other words, where in the English-speaking world is it more likely that I hear either?
Thanks a lot,
aaeaanw | T is heard mostly in British while it disappears in American English. | 
13-Aug-2008, 23:07
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Current Location: Brisbane First Language: English Member Type: Academic | | Re: Pronunciation of 'often' Quote:
Originally Posted by aboutaseasyasanuclearwar Hello,
Are the two different pronunciations of the term 'often' (with or withouth an audible 't') regionally characterised? In other words, where in the English-speaking world is it more likely that I hear either?
Thanks a lot,
aaeaanw | Never with a [t] in Oz, apart from 80+ yr olds. | 
21-Aug-2008, 11:31
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Current Location: Don't know First Language: Arabic - French - Turkish Member Type: Student or Learner | | Re: Pronunciation of 'often' In BR accents, "often" is pronunced "offen".
but in US both "often" & "offen" are pronunced, concidering that "often" is more popular in USA | 
25-Aug-2008, 18:08
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Current Location: United States First Language: English Member Type: Other | | Re: Pronunciation of 'often' Historically, I believe the pronunciation without the "t" was most common in America (I'm not sure about the UK, but I think the same applies there).
In recent years, listening to newscasters and the like, there does seem to be a trend toward pronouncing the "t". The issue has been discussed frequently in various English usage forums; the general consensus is that, for some reason, "of-T-en" is now perceived to be the prestige pronunciation.
Personally, I think "of-T-en" sounds silly. Next, people will be saying "su-B-tle" ...
Regards,
Merentha | 
26-Aug-2008, 20:09
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Current Location: Poland First Language: Polish Member Type: Student or Learner | | Re: Pronunciation of 'often' Could a British man write something? I got confused... | 
26-Aug-2008, 20:49
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Current Location: France First Language: English Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: Pronunciation of 'often' Quote:
Originally Posted by ladybird987 Could a British man write something? I got confused...  | I have always pronounced it with the "t" audible. British, male, 58 years old. | 
26-Aug-2008, 21:24
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Current Location: Jelenia Gora, Poland First Language: Polish Member Type: Other | | Re: Pronunciation of 'often' Quote:
Originally Posted by bhaisahab I have always pronounced it with the "t" audible. British, male, 58 years old.  | I never have, I mean ever since I started to learn English (that is, about 14 years ago when I first tried to pronounce a single word in English). 
Without 't' you don't have to use your muscles in your mouth and throat too much, as opposed to 't' pronounced. | 
27-Aug-2008, 00:02
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Current Location: Te Ika a Māui First Language: NZ English Member Type: Other | | Re: Pronunciation of 'often' Both "ofTen" and "offen" are heard here in NZ. I think the split would be roughly 85% "offen", 15% "ofTen". I lamost never say "ofTen", but it is sometimes used for emphatic purposes. I don't think there is any perception here that it is somehow a "superior" pronunciation. | 
28-Oct-2008, 00:39
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Current Location: california First Language: english Member Type: Other | | Re: Pronunciation of 'often' It is only in recent years that "often" has become common in the U.S.
It appears now that it has outpaced "offen" which used to be the standard, virtually exclusive, pronunciation.
You have to wonder whether a similar trend will hijack the pronunciation of soften. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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