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Lightbulb bad = [ba:d]? (British accent)

Do the Britons who live between England and Scotland pronounce 'bad' as [ba:d]?

I think a in 'bad' is pronounced as 'a' in apple.

It sounds interesting. Any comment? Thanks!
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So far as I am aware, apart from any regionalisms, that is the way most people will say "bad" "sad" "dad "fad" "mad".
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Hi Anglika,

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Default Re: bad = [ba:d]? (British accent)

[ba:d] is "bard"; Shakespeare is sometimes called the Bard of Avon (the place where he was born).

As Anglika says, this may be a regionalism. But in my experience of many Northern accents, the RP /æ/ is often replaced a different vowel, but not a long one.

A Northerner imitating my (London - but on the RP side, rather than the Cockney ) accent used to replace the RP /ʌ/ (of "buck", "duck" ... etc ) with [a:].

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Default Re: bad = [ba:d]? (British accent)

I think for many British people /ae/ undergoes some phonetic lengthening before voiced consonants (possibly not all of them, I can't remember the exact rule).

Contrast: "bad" vs "bat", "bag" vs "back"
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[ba:d] is "bard"; Shakespeare is sometimes called the Bard of Avon (the place where he was born).

As Anglika says, this may be a regionalism. But in my experience of many Northern accents, the RP /æ/ is often replaced a different vowel, but not a long one.



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Bard for bad looks like a Northern Irish pronounciation.
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I think for many British people /ae/ undergoes some phonetic lengthening before voiced consonants (possibly not all of them, I can't remember the exact rule).

Contrast: "bad" vs "bat", "bag" vs "back"
Yes, this applies to most English, not just British. Many vowel sounds and diphthongs are lengthened before a voiced consonant.
Compare also:
write - ride
neat - need
root - rude
clout - clowd
...
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Default Re: bad = [ba:d]? (British accent)

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clout - clowd
You mean cloud?
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You mean cloud?
Yes. I must have been thinking crowd and clown and writing cloud.
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