[Grammar] 'a' or 'an'

[cadrie]

Hi, Is it correct to say 'a' A-4 file or 'an' A-4 file?

[hanky]

Originally Posted by cadrie

Hi, Is it correct to say 'a' A-4 file or 'an' A-4 file?

I think it should be "an" because before an acronym or an abbreviation one uses "an". Example: I saw an SOS signal yesterday ....

Not a teacher.

[cadrie]

Thanks a lot!

[David L.]

Sorry...but that's not the reason.

A-4 file begins with a vowel, namely, "A"

SOS begins with a vowel sound: ESS-O-ESS

Use 'an' when the word begins with a vowel, or a vowel-sound.

[hanky]

Originally Posted by hanky

I think it should be "an" because before an acronym or an abbreviation one uses "an". Example: I saw an SOS signal yesterday ....

Not a teacher.

Well, it was my mistake. If an acronym or an abbreviation begins with A E F H I L M N O R S X one has to use "an" otherwise "a" is appropriate.

Originally Posted by David L.

Sorry...but that's not the reason.

A-4 file begins with a vowel, namely, "A"

SOS begins with a vowel sound: ESS-O-ESS

Use 'an' when the word begins with a vowel, or a vowel-sound.

To David: Yes, I know that, but the poster is a teacher of English therefore I assumed s/he knows this already.

[David L.]

Hanky: If an acronym or an abbreviation begins with A E F H I L M N O R S X one has to use "an"

Take out the vowels, and F,H, L, M, N,R,S and X remain

As letters per se, EFF, ELL, EMM, ENN,ESS and EXX commence with a vowel sound.
(Compare B, C, D,G,J,K,P,Q,R,T,V,W,Y,and Z.)

Hanky:Can you give an acronym or abbreviation beginning with R that is similar to "Send an SOS."...and so requires 'an'?

[hanky]

Originally Posted by David L.

Hanky: If an acronym or an abbreviation begins with A E F H I L M N O R S X one has to use "an"

Take out the vowels, and F,H, L, M, N,R,S and X remain

As letters per se, EFF, ELL, EMM, ENN,ESS and EXX commence with a vowel sound.
(Compare B, C, D,G,J,K,P,Q,R,T,V,W,Y,and Z.)

Hanky:Can you give an acronym or abbreviation beginning with R that is similar to "Send an SOS."...and so requires 'an'?

Well, David, you know I did not invent this rule myself I took it when surfing internet. Maybe you could be interested in seeing this documentary

http://www.jal.cc.il.us/departmentpages/english/pdfs/write_place_tutorials/17_advanced_study_guide_for_the_complete_use_of_A_and_An.pdf

By this time I could not think of any abbreviation or acronym starts with R and requires "an" as the rule said.

I am not sure whether this rule I said above for using "an" and "a" is correct or not therefore I post it here to have your feedback.

Please note that I am not an English teacher nor a native English speaker. Correct me whenever you find my mistake. Thanks.

[David L.]

Hanky: understand that others read our posts, and it is important for learners that any inadvertent 'misinformation' picked up in good faith but from unreliable sources (such as the Internet!) needs to be commented on.

I checked that site, and it spells out about 'an' before vowels, and then says:
Use 'an' in front of these letters of the alphabet (when used as isolated letters) because of
the way they are sounded: A E F H I L M N O R S X
"My last name begins with an M. Write an X in the blank. No student wants an F for a
course grade."
Note: it refers to 'letters of the alphabet', not acronyms or abbreviations, and is reiterating what I posted earlier:
As letters per se, EFF, ELL, EMM, ENN,ESS and EXX commence with a vowel sound.
(Compare B, C, D,G,J,K,P,Q,R,T,V,W,Y,and Z.)

[hanky]

Originally Posted by David L.

Hanky: understand that others read our posts, and it is important for learners that any inadvertent 'misinformation' picked up in good faith but from unreliable sources (such as the Internet!) needs to be commented on.

Well, in my very first post I have stated that I was not a teacher as it is required in our forum rules. And therefore the readers are supposed to be careful and recheck what they read in my post. But I agree that it should have been very much better if I have commented "this rule" need to be confirmed by a professional English teacher.

Now, to help our learners be clear, could you please tell us that you agree or disagree with the rule state that: using "an" before an abbreviation or acronym starts with A E F H I L M N O R S X ?

[hanky]

Well, I replyed when you were editing your post. :)