Exactly!Adding together the numerical values that denote the length of his lifespan in years and minus one times mine, we would get a number bigger than zero. ;-)
He is older than me. :tick:
He is older than I am. :tick:
He is older than I. :cross:
(I what?? ;-) - Example: He is older than I thought :tick
Tdol, theoretically everything is possible, but correct grammar is always welcome
Cheers!
If you accept "He is older than me" then you must accept "He is older than I."
You indicate that "He is older than I" requires another word, such as "thought." If that were the case, then it would equally be true of "He is older than me."
"He is older than me" is grammatically incorrect? Then most of us are wrong.
:roll:
I don't think it's a matter of having a better command of language.I'd appreciate your further thoughts on this. You may well have a better command of the language than me. :-o
I don't think it's a matter of having a better command of language.
But your point about what should be taught as being correct on this forum is a good one. Consistency is also always a good thing.
But where is the virtue in teaching that "He is older than me" is wrong when everybody says it? It's similar to the singular "they". If learners are going to actually speak English (rather than just doing grammar exams) they want to know how they should say something.
Since "He is older than me" is accepted by educated people in all major English speaking countries (on present evidence), then this should be considered an exception to the rule, rather than being called "incorrect".
Grammar describes how a language works. Although grammar has a useful prescriptive function, and one that teachers and students should respect, the majority usage of a term such as this makes it idiomatic, and hence not "incorrect".
At least that's my viewpoint.
Yes, I agree. It's a matter of where you lay the importance. I think this thread has explained the truth of the matter.I fully agree. Your point is very well taken. But isn't it important to point out the rule, while at the same time explaining that the common use of "me" has become an acceptable exception?
I'd appreciate your further thoughts on this. You may well have a better command of the language than me. :-o
This sentence, then should also end with I, rather than me, to be correct.
I am not a teacher.
Yes, because it would be short for You may well have a better command of the language than I do.I'd appreciate your further thoughts on this. You may well have a better command of the language than me. :-o
This sentence, then should also end with I, rather than me, to be correct.
GenJen54 said:I found the following from the Rutgers "Andromeda" English Grammar Website and The Guide to Grammar and Style by Jack Lynch.
It's the quickest substitution I could find since my style books and old ESL text books are in storage. Let the debate begin...
Than I versus Than Me.
Than, as used in comparatives, has traditionally been considered a conjunction; as such, if you're comparing subjects, the pronouns after than should take the "subjective case." In other words, "He's taller than I," not "He's taller than me"; "She's smarter than he," not "She's smarter than him." If, on the other hand, you're comparing direct or indirect objects, the pronouns should be objective: "I've never worked with a more difficult client than him."
There are some advantages to this traditional state of affairs. If you observe this distinction, you can be more precise in some comparisons. Consider these two sentences:
The problem, though, is that in all but the most formal contexts, "than I" sounds stuffy, even unidiomatic. Most people, in most contexts, treat than as a preposition, and put all following pronouns in the objective case, whether the things being compared are subjects or objects. "He's taller than me" sounds more natural to most native English speakers.
- He has more friends than I. (His total number of friends is higher than my total number of friends.)
- He has more friends than me. (I'm not his only friend; he has others.)
(Mods, please let me know if this is inappropriate and I will gladly remove it and/or paraphrase the text to fit the WR formats.)
I must honestly say this topic seems to be more complicated than I thought.
Anyway I found this post:
It's taken from some other forums.
I like the both sentences I marked.
What would be the exact question for this sentence:
I'm taller than John.
Than who am I taller? - Than who is John taller?
Than whom am I taller? - Than whom is John taller?
(Please correct the questions because I believe they are all wrong.)
In my opinion if it's who, we should use I, this means:
John is taller than I
What else I read:
"...than me" sounds correct to most guys, but it seems to be wrong.
"...than I" sounds odd to most guys, but strongly seen (grammatically) it should be correct.
I really would like to know this.
Cheers!
Than who am I taller? - Than who is John taller?
Than whom am I taller? - Than whom is John taller?
(Please correct the questions because I believe they are all wrong.)