[Grammar] agreement of tenses

[heyt]

Hello,

Could you tell me if this sentence is correct?It sounds natural to me and I've seen examples of this on the Internet.

You should have talked to him and tell him the truth.

Thank you,
heyt :roll:

 

[2006]

Hello,

Could you tell me if this sentence is correct?It sounds natural to me and I've seen examples of this on the Internet.

You should have talked to him and tell him the truth. :cross:

Thank you,
heyt :roll:

You should have talked to him and told him the truth. :tick:

 

[heyt]

Thank you, and what abou this one:

'You should have talked to her and say: I'm sorry.'

 

[billmcd]

Hello,

Could you tell me if this sentence is correct?It sounds natural to me and I've seen examples of this on the Internet.

You should have talked to him and tell him the truth.

Thank you,
heyt :roll:

"You should have talked to him and [STRIKE]tell[/STRIKE]told him the truth." Unless the speaker is suggesting that the listener tell the truth now, but that inference is not clear.

 

[2006]

Thank you, and what abou this one:

'You should have talked to her and say: I'm sorry.' :cross:
In your sentences, "should have" refers to the past. So you have to use past tense verbs.

You should have talked to her and said 'I'm sorry.' :tick:

 

[Abstract Idea]

----- Not an ESL teacher -----

Thank you, and what abou this one:

'You should have talked to her and say: I'm sorry.'

As the other posters already stated your original sentences were incorrect.
I think the form you are looking for is somewhat of:

You should have talked to her saying "I'm sorry".
You should have talked to her saying you were sorry.
You should have talked to her telling you were sorry.

 

[2006]

----- Not an ESL teacher -----


As the other posters already stated your original sentences were incorrect.
I think the form you are looking for is somewhat of:
heyt's sentence structure was not incorrect; some of the verb tenses were wrong.

You should have talked to her, saying "I'm sorry". :tick:
You should have talked to her, saying you were sorry. :tick:
You should have talked to her, telling you were sorry. :cross:

2006

 

[Abstract Idea]

----- Not an ESL teacher -----

Originally Posted by Abstract Idea
As the other posters already stated your original sentences were incorrect.
I think the form you are looking for is somewhat of:
heyt's sentence structure was not incorrect; some of the verb tenses were wrong.

You should have talked to her, saying "I'm sorry". :tick:
You should have talked to her, saying you were sorry. :tick:
You should have talked to her, telling you were sorry. :cross:

2006

Although you didn't say it explicit, I guess the reason for the last sentence of mine to be considered incorrect is the lack of object. So it would be better to say:
You should have talked to her, telling her you were sorry.
You should have talked to her, telling her that you were sorry.
But anyway, in colloquial English I guess it is acceptable, as well heyt's second version. (OK you may begin the execution.)

When I said heyt's original sentences were incorrect I meant some of the verb tenses were wrong.
Still I think maybe heyt was looking for something in the line of the sentences above. If he wasn't, his post reminded me of these possibilities.

Thanks for the commas.

 

[2006]

----- Not an ESL teacher -----


Although you didn't say it [STRIKE]explicitly[/STRIKE], I guess the reason for the last sentence of mine to be considered incorrect is the lack of object. yes
'explicitly' would be correct, but since I didn't say anything about why it is incorrect, don't use 'explicitly'.
So it would be better to say: yes
You should have talked to her, telling her you were sorry.
You should have talked to her, telling her that you were sorry.
Thanks for the commas.

2006

 

[Abstract Idea]

----- Not an English teacher -----

Originally Posted by Abstract Idea

Although you didn't say it explicitly, I guess the reason for the last sentence of mine to be considered incorrect is the lack of object. yes
'explicitly' would be correct, but since I didn't say anything about why it is incorrect, don't use 'explicitly'.
So it would be better to say: yes
You should have talked to her, telling her you were sorry.
You should have talked to her, telling her that you were sorry.
Thanks for the commas.

2006

OK 2006, thanks again. I am really sleepy, I meant explicitly. We should have a second to review what we write here. But since this is just for fun, let it be.

Discussing now semantics: I think you said it implicitly, no? How would you say it implicitly?
Anyway, the fact is that you didn't say it explicitly (regardless of having said it implicitly or not).

Still waiting for the execution.

 

[2006]

----- Not an English teacher -----



OK 2006, thanks again. I am really sleepy, I meant explicitly. We should have a second to review what we write here. But since this is just for fun, let it be.

Discussing now semantics: I think you said it implicitly, no? How would you say it implicitly? I didn't say anything about why it was wrong, so you can't use 'implicitly' either.

Still waiting for the execution. What are you talking about??

2006

 

[Abstract Idea]

----- Not an English teacher -----

Originally Posted by Abstract Idea

OK 2006, thanks again. I am really sleepy, I meant explicitly. We should have a second to review what we write here. But since this is just for fun, let it be.

Discussing now semantics: I think you said it implicitly, no? How would you say it implicitly? I didn't say anything about why it was wrong, so you can't use 'implicitly' either.

2006

I was not asking if I could use implicitly. I was just stating that since you didn't say anything about it you didn't say it either implicitly or explicitly. So I still don't understand why my sentence "Although you didn't say it explicitly" is semantically wrong.

 

[2006]

----- Not an English teacher -----



I was not asking if I could use implicitly. I was just stating that since you didn't say anything about it you didn't say it either implicitly or explicitly.

So I still don't understand why my sentence "Although you didn't say it explicitly" is semantically wrong.

Because saying "didn't say it explicitly" suggests that I said it another way, but I didn't say anything about why it was wrong. So the only correct way is to say 'Although you didn't say (it), I guess the reason................'

 

[Abstract Idea]

Because saying "didn't say it explicitly" suggests that I said it another way, but I didn't say anything about why it was wrong. So the only correct way is to say 'Although you didn't say (it), I guess the reason................'

If I had said:
Although you didn't say it out loud, I guess ...
Although you didn't say it joyfully, I guess ...
Although you didn't say it readily, I guess ...
would it still be wrong?

 

[2006]

If I had said:
Although you didn't say it out loud, I guess ...
Although you didn't say it joyfully, I guess ...
Although you didn't say it readily, I guess ...
would it still be wrong?

Yes, they are all inappropriate and therefore wrong.

 

[Abstract Idea]

Yes, they are all inappropriate and therefore wrong.

Which adverb could be appropriate and right in this case?

 

[2006]

Which adverb could be appropriate and right in this case?

No adverb is needed, so none would be appropriate. I don't know why you are so insistent about putting an adverb there.