I pronounce Louis Vuitton as /ˈluːiː viːˈtɔ:n/)

[NewHopeR]

I pronounce Louis Vuitton as /ˈluːiː viːˈtɔn/)
Am I on the right track?

Context:

Louis Vuitton (commonly /ˈluːiː viːˈtɒn/),

 

[5jj]

Wikipedia gives: (French: [lwi vɥitɔ̃], commonly /ˈluːiː viːˈtɒn/).

 

[NewHopeR]

Wikipedia gives: (French: [lwi vɥitɔ̃], commonly /ˈluːiː viːˈtɒn/).

I know. But /viːˈtɒn/ = / viːˈtɔn/?

I don't recognize this weird sign ɒ .

 

[SirGod]

* Not a teacher

/ɒ/ is a short o.

 

[NewHopeR]

* Not a teacher

/ɒ/ is a short o.

It equals /əu/?

So we read Vuitton as /viːˈtəun/? Or /viːˈtɔn/?

 

[SirGod]

It equals /əu/?

So we read Vuitton as /viːˈtəun/? Or /viːˈtɔn/?

No, even it may sound similar, a sound doesn't equal any other sound. Say it this way, /viːˈtɒn/.

As about /viːˈtɔn/, I have never come across /ɔ/ by itself (only in diphthongs: /ɔɪ/ as in join or /ɔː/ (long o), as in broad), I don't know if that's possible.

 

[NewHopeR]

No, even it may sound similar, a sound doesn't equal any other sound. Say it this way, /viːˈtɒn/.

As about /viːˈtɔn/, I have never come across /ɔ/ by itself (only in diphthongs: /ɔɪ/ as in join or /ɔː/ (long o), as in broad), I don't know if that's possible.

Like you, I've never come across ɒ. which is pronounced like "o" in the word "long"?

 

[5jj]

Like you, I've never come across ɒ. which is pronounced like "o" in the word "long"?

Yes. It's the standard phonemic symbol for the sound in BrE: Phonetic symbols for English

 

[NewHopeR]

Yes. It's the standard phonemic symbol for the sound in BrE: Phonetic symbols for English

That source is excellent.
Thank you.

 

[SirGod]

Like you, I've never come across ɒ. which is pronounced like "o" in the word "long"?

No, I said that I had never come across "isolated" /ɔ/ (only in diphthongs or long o). (long o = /ɔ:/) (short o = ɒ). Long and short are their names or, at least, how I call them, they were not examples.

 

[birdeen's call]

NewHopeR, I believe the pronunciation you gave in the first post is just as good as the one Wikipedia gives. Note that the sound /ɒ/ is only common in English English. It's uncommon in America and in Australia (as far as I know). In many places /ɔ/ will be used instead. In America, the issue is quite complex because there's at least three main variations of this sound. I believe a Scot might pronounce the name with /ɔ/.