talked myself into

[unpakwon]

What is the following in red saying in the context?

I talked myself into World War 1 by a patriotic address in Escanaba, Michigan; I have barnstormed for charity with Mickey Rooney ... I have even made an after-dinner speech in very bad French.

Thank you.

 

[Route21]

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Regards
R21

 

[emsr2d2]

I talked myself into World War 1 by a patriotic address in Escanaba, Michigan;

Whilst "talking yourself into something" is perfectly acceptable English, the whole first part of the piece makes no sense.

 

[probus]

Whilst "talking yourself into something" is perfectly acceptable English, the whole first part of the piece makes no sense.

Does anyone think that the author was trying for "I talked my way into World war 1"? It makes more sense that way. I even suspected at first that author was Hemingway, but have been unable to find any evidence for that.

 

[5jj]

I think he means that he talked himself into joining the army (in order to fight in the war) after hearing the patriotic address.

 

[Amigos4]

Does anyone think that the author was trying for "I talked my way into World war 1"? It makes more sense that way. I even suspected at first that author was Hemingway, but have been unable to find any evidence for that.

Probus, it was not Hemingway. The quotation can be found on page 26 of Dale Carnegie's "The Quick and Easy Way to Effective Speaking". ( The Quick and Easy Way to Effective Speaking - Dale Carnegie, Dorothy Carnegie - Google Books )

Cheers,
A4

 

[emsr2d2]

He may have meant that he talked his way into World War I but following that with "by a patriotic address" makes no sense.

I was talked into [joining] WWI by a patriotic address ...
I talked myself into joining WWI after hearing ...

If he gave the speech himself, then:

I talked my way into WWI by giving a patriotic address ...

 

[Esredux]

It might not sound good English, but I am pretty much sure I have met something similar somewhere (Mark Twain, Jerome K. Jerome?) In that context, the meaning was cystal clear like 'I was so remarkably eloquent that even believed it (or whatever he spoke about) myself'. I have always thought that it was coined from 'talk [myself] into doing [here: believing] sth'.

 

[5jj]

Here's some more of the passage, which I found here:


" He determined to become a good speaker and didn’t stop in that determination until he became a world-respected economic consultant to the government. His name is Clarence B. Randall. In one of his thoughtful books, Freedom’s Faith, he has this to say about public speaking:

“I have service stripes all the way up one sleeve and all the way down the other from appearances before luncheons and dinners of manufacturers’ associations, Chambers of Commerce, Rotary Clubs, fundraising campaigns, alumni organizations and all the rest. I talked myself into World War I by a patriotic address in Escanaba, Michigan; I have barnstormed for charity with Mickey Rooney, and for education with President James Bryant Conant of Harvard and Chancellor Robert M. Hutchins of the University of Chicago; and I have even made an after-dinner speech in very bad French.”

“I think I know something about what an audience will listen to. And how they want it said. And there is nothing whatever about it that a man worthy to bear important business responsibility cannot learn if he will.” "


This seems to suggest that a patriotic speech he gave was so effective that it even convinced him that he should enlist to go to war.