But Russell was not nearly as successful as Alain de Botton is.

Status
Not open for further replies.

sane-1

New member
Joined
Nov 19, 2019
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Bengali; Bangla
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
Is the word "is" necessary in the following sentence?

But Russell was not nearly as successful as Alain de Botton is.
 

jutfrank

VIP Member
Joined
Mar 5, 2014
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
England
Current Location
England
It is necessary, yes. Without it, the reader would interpret an ellipsis of was, and Alain de Botton is very much still alive and present.
 

Cunning Fox

Junior Member
Joined
Oct 4, 2021
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
Russian
Home Country
Russian Federation
Current Location
Russian Federation
I'm afraid I have to disagree with the previous speaker. "Is" isn't necessary. It's necessary only if the listener is likely not to know who Alain de Botton is, that's why it's not obvious for them whether Alain is alive and present or isn't. When it's not the case, "is" can be omitted.
 

5jj

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 14, 2010
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
Czech Republic
Current Location
Czech Republic
I agree with jutfrank. This may be influenced by the fact that I have no idea who Alain de Botton is/was.
 

Cunning Fox

Junior Member
Joined
Oct 4, 2021
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
Russian
Home Country
Russian Federation
Current Location
Russian Federation
I agree with jutfrank. This may be influenced by the fact that I have no idea who Alain de Botton is/was.
Neither do I but I don't know whether the listener has no idea either.

Frankly speaking, after reentering the thread and reading the sentence again, I've changed my mind: I'd use "is" just to make myself as clear as possible.
 

5jj

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 14, 2010
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
Czech Republic
Current Location
Czech Republic
That, I think, was jutfrank's point.
 

Tdol

No Longer With Us (RIP)
Staff member
Joined
Nov 13, 2002
Native Language
British English
Home Country
UK
Current Location
Japan
Who is Russell? I am curious as I think Alain de Botton's contribution to philosophy is up there with Fortune Cookies and Christmas crackers.
 

probus

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jan 7, 2011
Member Type
Retired English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
Canada
Current Location
Canada
Was the author speaking of Bertrand Russell? If so, they were comparing an elephant to a mouse. No prize for guessing whether de Botton is the big one or the small one. 😀

By the way, Sane-1, you must always give the source and author of any passage you quote.
 

Tdol

No Longer With Us (RIP)
Staff member
Joined
Nov 13, 2002
Native Language
British English
Home Country
UK
Current Location
Japan
That is what I was wondering. Russell Brand would be even worse.
 

Tarheel

VIP Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2014
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
Who is Russell? I am curious as I think Alain de Botton's contribution to philosophy is up there with Fortune Cookies and Christmas crackers.
Christmas crackers? Are they what Americans would call "cookies'?
 

probus

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jan 7, 2011
Member Type
Retired English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
Canada
Current Location
Canada
Thread closed. The OP has had plenty of time to provide the source and author, and has failed to do so.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top