consider somebody/something to do & consider somebody/something (as) doing

[Tae-Bbong-E]

Regarding "Consider"'s No. 2 definition and usage in https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/consider?q=consider,
I have some questions below. Can I use consider the way like this?

1) consider somebody/something to do
I considered this problem to violate company rules.
This problem was considered to violate company rules.


2) consider somebody/something (as) doing
I considered this problem (as) violating company rules
This problem was considered (as) violating company rules

 

[jutfrank]

1) I'd encourage you not to. Use this pattern only with state verbs (be/have).

2) No. Use consider + to be + -ing instead.

These patterns are complicated enough already. You don't need to complicate things any further.

 

[Tae-Bbong-E]

2) No. Use consider + to be + -ing instead.

These patterns are complicated enough already. You don't need to complicate things any further.

Okay, So could I compose sentences like this?
I considered this problem to be violating company rules
This problem was considered to be violating company rules.


Plus, Could I drop "to be" like this?
I considered this problem (to be) violating company rules
This problem was considered (to be) violating company rules.

 

[GoesStation]

Okay, So could I compose sentences like this?
I considered this problem to be violating company rules
This problem was considered to be violating company rules.

I'd find a different way to express the idea. Maybe I determined that this situation violated company rules.

Plus, could I drop "to be" like this?
I considered this problem (to be) violating company rules
This problem was considered (to be) violating company rules.

No.

Don't capitalize the word after a comma unless it's a proper noun.

 

[jutfrank]

Okay, So could I compose sentences like this?
I considered this problem to be violating company rules
This problem was considered to be violating company rules.

Yes, that's fine. Good.

Plus, Could I drop "to be" like this?
I considered this problem (to be) violating company rules
This problem was considered (to be) violating company rules.

No, the to be cannot be dropped.

[cross-posted]

 

[emsr2d2]

I don't like any of them with "violating". "This" can't violate rules. People can violate rules.

I considered this to be a violation of company rules.
In my opinion, he was violating company rules.

 

[jutfrank]

I agree with emsr2d2. People violate rules (or people's actions), but not problems.

 

[Phaedrus]

"This" can't violate rules. People can violate rules.

I considered this to be a violation of company rules.

Another way of putting it is to say that "this" is in violation of company rules.

For what it's worth, on Google, "considered to be in violation of" tops "considered a violation of" thirteen million to six million.

 

[Tae-Bbong-E]

I don't like any of them with "violating". "This" can't violate rules. People can violate rules.

I considered this to be a violation of company rules.
In my opinion, he was violating company rules.

I agree with emsr2d2. People violate rules (or people's actions), but not problems.

Okay. If so, can I say something like this?
I considered his action to be a violation of company rules

In that case am I allowed to drop "to be", ain't I?
I considered his action a violation of company rules

Because I saw the following patterns from Oxford dictionary as an attached picture.

 

[Phaedrus]

I considered his action (to be) in violation of company rules.

 

[Tarheel]

I considered his action to be a violation of company rules

That one's OK. (You can omit "to be" there.)