[Grammar] Could I use your cellphone? sorry, I don't have mine with me

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Hello ,
Could anyone tell me which of the following is correct?
Could I use your cellphone? sorry, I don't have mine with me.
Could I use your cellphone? sorry, I don't have mine with myself.
 

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Hello ,
Could anyone tell me which of the following is correct?

Could I use your cellphone? Sorry, I don't have mine with me.
Could I use your cellphone? Sorry, I don't have mine with myself.

With the correction in capitalisation after a question mark, the first is correct. The second is incorrect.
 

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Cell phone is two words. Nowadays, there's no need to include "cell".
 

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Ah, because we don't use "cell phone" in BrE, I forget how it's written. In BrE, we'd say "mobile" or "mobile phone". I suppose I would say "phone" if there wasn't also a landline phone nearby that I could be referring to.
 

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The first is correct. The second is incorrect.
Here is what extracted from OXFORD English Grammar Book:
"We can also use reflexives after most preposition when the object of the preposition is the same as the subject".

Could you please tell me why we can't use reflexive pronoun in my example, as the subject and object of preposition are the same?
 

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I don't find with myself incorrect when it is used in place of with me. I'd happily use it if I wanted to put an emphasis on my not having a phone. Bear in mind that back in your school your teachers will probably require you to use with me only, as that will definitely be in line with what the textbooks prescribe students to say and write.
 

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We don't use reflexives after verbs such as bring/take/have something with...:

He went out and took an umbrella with him (NOT [STRIKE]himself[/STRIKE]).


Reason (quoted from Practical English Usage, Michael Swan, Third edition, page 476):
After prepositions of place, we often use a personal pronoun (me, you etc) if the meaning is clear without using a reflexive. Compare:


She took her dog with her. (NOT ... [STRIKE]with herself.[/STRIKE] She could hardly take her dog with somebody else.)


She's very pleased with herself. (She could be pleased with somebody else.)


Other examples:

Close the door after you.
He was pulling a small cart behind him.
 
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We don't use reflexives after verbs such as bring/take/have something with...:

Thanks for your reply, but I can't find above explanation in Michael Swan Book.
 

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Thanks for your reply, but I can't find above explanation in Michael Swan Book.
That's mine. Just the second quote is Swan's.
 
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