He heard her to be shouted at

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The rule I rely on says that in constructions with a complex object, an infinitive without "to" is used after perception verbs.
Does this rule remain unchanged regarding to infinitives in the passive voice?

In the answers to the task, it says that correctly "He heard her to be shouted at" although as I understand it, "to" is excessive here.
Can you help me explain what I'm wrong about?
 
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The rule I rely on says that in constructions with a complex object, an infinitive without "to" is used after perception verbs.
Could you give us an example of a sentence containing this structure?

In the answers to the task,
What task?
it says that correctly "He heard how she was shouted at," although as I understand it, "to" is excessive here.
Where is the 'to'?

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Here's the rule:
  1. Expresses the physical perception and feeling to see — to see, to watch — look, to notice — notice, to observe — to observe, to feel — to feel, to hear — to hear and others.
  2. When we put these verbs the infinitive without the particle to.
    I have never heard you sing. — I’ve never heard you sing.
    We saw the postman slip a thick envelope into the box. — We’ve seen the postman dropped in the mailbox thick envelope.
 

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As you can see there are sentences with complex object structure without participle 'to', because we have used perception verb in the beginning. I thought this rule is relevant for the sentences with forms of infinitives in passive voice and my variant "He heard her be shouted at" was correct, but it wasn't.
Here's the rule:
  1. Expresses the physical perception and feeling to see — to see, to watch — look, to notice — notice, to observe — to observe, to feel — to feel, to hear — to hear and others.
  2. When we put these verbs the infinitive without the particle to.
 

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I think this may address what you're asking:

see somebody do something
hear somebody do something


In these patterns, the infinitive marker 'to' before the verb is incorrect. You just need the base form.

However, in the much less common passive voice structure, the infinitive marker 'to' is required:

be seen to do something
be heard to do something


(Please tell us where you've taken the examples that you've used from.)
 

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@daniilzelekson
"Could you help me explain what I'm wrong about?"

I'm guessing that you mean to ask if somebody would tell you what you got wrong.
 
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Welcome to the forum, daniilzelekson.
 

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Or:

He heard somebody shouting at her.
 

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daniilzelekson is interested in the passive construction, @Tarheel.
 
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