[Grammar] "If we don't considering" normally the second verb is put in infitive

[duke31]

Hello everybody,
The general rule says if two verbs are in succession, the first verb is put in the appropriate tense and the second is is put in the infinitive form. I saw people using this type of sentence "If we don't considering such consideration".
What is a possible explanation of using "considering" instead of "consider"? how this specific case is called in grammar context?

Sweet regards.
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[Rover_KE]

Welcome to the forums.

I'm afraid I've never heard of this 'general rule' and your quoted sentence makes no sense.

Someone else may be able to enlighten us later.

 

[SoothingDave]

You need to supply a full sentence where you saw such a structure.

 

[duke31]

Here is a full sentence as ordered:
"Therefore, the usefulness of any teaching material remains a very relative issue if we don’t considering such considerations."

 

[SoothingDave]

It's an error. It should be "consider such considerations." Which is pretty inelegant as far as phrasing goes.

 

[Boris Tatarenko]

I bet 'if we don't consider' is correct. So, throw this book away.

P.S Dave is the fastest man I've ever seen.

 

[duke31]

I don't guess it is a mistake and if it does, it is a widely used one. try to Google: "don’t considering".

 

[BobK]

How right you are! Google is a source of so many good examples. :-|

Incidentally, you meant 'I don't think/believe it's a mistake' - though I question whether that belief is well founded. ;-)

b

PS I don't think you meant 'try to Google' either. You try to do something that's difficult; you meant 'try Googling'.

 

[Barb_D]

Duke, it is a mistake.

People start to write something one way, like "We aren't considering that option." Then they change their minds and switch to "Don't." But they forget to change the other verb.

After a form of "to do" (in the same verb phrase), the next verb is in the "bare infinitive" (consider, believe, think, see, run, write, etc.) not the progressive form.

Some of the examples have them in different phrases, and they just happen to be next to each other.

 

[Tdol]

The general rule says if two verbs are in succession, the first verb is put in the appropriate tense and the second is is put in the infinitive form.

Which general rule? This doesn't work with be + ing and have/had + past participle.

 

[duke31]

As a non-native speaker, first and second languages have a great influence on how English is used.
Please accept my apology, the general rule I was referring to is a French rule "Lorsque deux verbes se suivent le second est toujours à l'infinitif". However, I think the rule stated by Barb_D [After a form of "to do" (in the same verb phrase), the next verb is in the "bare infinitive" (consider, believe, think, see, run, write, etc.) not the progressive form.] is the one I wanted to apply.
All in all, "don't considering" is a mistake the correct form would be "don't consider" "are not considering".
Thank you for your response.

 

[Jaskin]

hi
Please note I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker.

I don't guess it is a mistake and if it does, it is a widely used one. try to Google: "don’t considering".

I did, considering your request. or shall have I written :considering your request, I did. I've noticed that many people just don't use proper punctuation, or like in the example below are bluntly honest.

I don’t considering myself highly literate and therefore I am not always great at explaining myself or my belief’s to people

cheers

 

[Raymott]

I don't guess it is a mistake and if it does, it is a widely used one. try to Google: "don’t considering".

You need to realise that if you Google "don't considering", you will get many correct sentences, such as:
"I usually don't, considering that it's dangerous."
"My brother knows, but I don't. Considering that, you should ask him."
Admittedly, there are also many examples of the error under discussion.

 

[BobK]

Good point:up: Google searches ignore punctuation. This means that Google, while being a readily available and accessible corpus-surrogate, it is no use for collocations.

 

[Jaskin]

Hi,

Good point:up: Google searches ignore punctuation. This means that Google, while being a readily available and accessible corpus-surrogate, it is no use for collocations.

If that's a good point why my post has been deleted ?

Cheers.

 

[Rover_KE]

If that's a good point why has my post been deleted ?

You didn't express yourself clearly enough, Jaskin.

Other moderators can view it and restore it if they disagree with me.

 

[Jaskin]

Hi,

You didn't express yourself clearly enough, Jaskin.

Other moderators can view it and restore it if they disagree with me.

Thanks for the correction. I have one more question. It's not topic related but I really can't think where else could I ask it.

Is there anyway for me to access the deleted post and get more elaborate explanation to why my post has been deleted so I would be able to learn from it.
I understand that reason for the deletion was that my post wasn't helpful. What I tried to point out is very much what Raymond has written, thought he did it a way more clearly.

Cheers.

 

[Rover_KE]

I've undeleted it for others to comment on if they wish.