If we had lost, it would've been for you.

[Ashraful Haque]

I was playing video games with my friends online (I know most of my posts are about video games. It's the only time I get to interact with people from all around the world). One of my friends made a mistake and we were almost about to lose but finally we won. After winning I said:

"If we had lost, it would've been for you."

But first I was going to say:
"If we lost, it would be for you."

I don't know why I changed my mind. I just want to know if what I said was correct and why?

 

[emsr2d2]

I have a feeling you're trying to say "If we'd lost, it would have been because of you" or "If we'd lost, it would have been your fault". Am I right?

 

[Tarheel]

I would probably have said:

If we had lost if would have been your fault.

But I wouldn't say that. Why? It seems to me entirely unnatural to assign blame for losing when you didn't lose.

 

[Rover_KE]

You'll also hear/see, informally, 'If we'd lost, it would've been down to you'.

 

[Ashraful Haque]

Thank you people so much for the answers. I have two questions.
1) Could you please tell me why it's:
"If we'd lost, it would have been because of you"
And not,
"If we lot, it would be because of you."

Is it because I am talking about a hypothetical past which happened before another past point (when we won)?
And is it the third conditional?

2) I think 'for you' is wrong here because it sounds like you did something for someone? For example, "I lost only for you." Which would mean something like only for your sake.

 

[Tarheel]

If we'd lost it would've been because of you.

It's the same as saying, "If we'd lost it would've been your fault." (It's a hypothetical situation that didn't happen in the past. )

The next sentence only works if you rewrite it, and then it means something entirely different, thus:

If we lose it will be because of you.

(I tried learning about conditionals, but it hurt my head. )

"I lost only for you" makes it seem like you lost on purpose, and you did it for that person. (Strange, but possible.)

I think we have covered everything. (Or almost everything.)

 

[Ashraful Haque]

If we'd lost it would've been because of you.

It's the same as saying, "If we'd lost it would've been your fault." (It's a hypothetical situation that didn't happen in the past. )

The next sentence only works if you rewrite it, and then it means something entirely different, thus:

If we lose it will be because of you.

(I tried learning about conditionals, but it hurt my head. )

"I lost only for you" makes it seem like you lost on purpose, and you did it for that person. (Strange, but possible.)

I think we have covered everything. (Or almost everything.)

Thank you so much. Specially for trying to learn about conditionals.

Third conditionals talk about hypothetical situations in the past. (past perfect subjunctive + conditional perfect). This is the definition of third conditionals.
I'll try one more sentence keeping in mind 'the third conditional' and my original sentence (if we had lost, it would've been your fault). Please let me know if it's correct.

Just two days ago a few young boys died while driving a car recklessly. I wish I could post the video here to show how stupid they were. So I said:
"If they hadn't died, they would've killed someone in the future for sure."

I'm pretty sure it's the same construction.

 

[Tarheel]

Try:

Just two days ago a few young boys died while one of them was driving recklessly.

We don't know what would have happened. We only know what did happen. So I wouldn't use that sentence.
:-(

 

[Ashraful Haque]

Try:

Just two days ago a few young boys died while one of them was driving recklessly.

We don't know what would have happened. We only know what did happen. So I wouldn't use that sentence.
:-(

I know what you mean. But is it grammatically correct?

 

[Tarheel]

I think you're asking about:

If they hadn't died, they would have killed someone in the future for sure.

The grammar is OK, but it's a weird thing to say. You're saying that dying kept them from killing somebody.
:-?

 

[Ashraful Haque]

I think you're asking about:

If they hadn't died, they would have killed someone in the future for sure.

The grammar is OK, but it's a weird thing to say. You're saying that dying kept them from killing somebody.
:-?

Thank you. I wish I could tell you why, but my post got edited.