Imperative mood and its negative form

[toloue_man]

Hi!

Imagine that we have the following sentence:

You, open the door.

Now what is its negative form? Are both of the following sentences correct?

You, don't open the door.
Don't you open the door. (I'm reading a grammar book. The book has only mentioned this sentence for negative form of imperatives. This sentence is kinda strange for me, that's why I want to know that are both sentence correct?)

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Now the last question, is it the same when we have a noun in imperatives?

Affirmative: John, open the door.
Negatives: John, don't open the door.
or: Dont John open the door.

 

[Tdol]

Don't open the door. :tick:
Don't you open the door. :tick:
John, don't open the door. :tick:

If you had something like Hey you, don't open the door it would be fine, but you on its own sounds odd to me. If there were a pause between the two, it could be OK.

 

[toloue_man]

Dont John open the door.

Isn't this one correct? It is the same as "Don't you open the door"

 

[emsr2d2]

Dont John open the door?

Isn't this one correct? It is the same as "Don't you open the door"

No. It's not correct. Firstly, you have omitted the apostrophe from "Don't". Secondly, we don't position someone's name there in an imperative. "Don't you open the door" is a common but (in my opinion), non-standard phrase. I would say that it's a shortened form of "Don't you dare open the door".

If you use someone's name in an imperative, then it goes at the beginning or the end.

John, don't open the door.
Don't open the door, Sarah.

 

[toloue_man]

If you use someone's name in an imperative, then it goes at the beginning or the end.

John, don't open the door.
Don't open the door, Sarah.

Even me as a non-native speaker of English have the same idea

 

[emsr2d2]

Even [strike]me[/strike] I, as a non-native speaker of English, have the same idea.

Did you mean "Even I, as a non-native speaker of English, think the same"?

 

[toloue_man]

Did you mean "Even I, as a non-native speaker of English, think the same"?

Yes! I thought mistakenly that "even" is a preposition.