[Vocabulary] My friends suppose me very rich (suppose v. think)

[hhtt21]

I'm trying to form a sentence. Would you please help me form it?

Context: The idea is that a person's friends think something, but this is not true.

1. My friends think me I'm very rich, even though I'm not.
2. My friends suppose me very rich.

Does suppose in 2 imply that the situation is not so?

Source: Self-made.

 

[jutfrank]

Just keep it clear and simple:

My friends think I'm rich, but I'm not.

 

[hhtt21]

Just keep it clear and simple:

My friends think I'm rich, but I'm not.

This is very short though, is there any verb in English which can imply the second clause, but I am not?

 

[jutfrank]

This is very short though, is there any verb in English which can imply the second clause, but I am not?

Short is good, by the way.

I can't think of a verb but there are some adverbs you could use with believe: falsely/mistakenly/wrongly believe ...

 

[jutfrank]

On second thoughts, I think you could use suppose or imagine to imply that it is not true.

My friends suppose I'm rich.
My friends imagine I'm rich.

 

[teechar]

Try "assume".

 

[hhtt21]

On second thoughts, I think you could use suppose or imagine to imply that it is not true.

My friends suppose I'm rich.
My friends imagine I'm rich.

Would you please explain what on second thoughts is?

In the above, do suppose and imagine not require the adverbs falsely/mistakenly/wrongly to imply that that was untrue?

 

[emsr2d2]

"On second thoughts" means "I have thought about it again and have come to a different conclusion".

 

[jutfrank]

In the above, do suppose and imagine not require the adverbs falsely/mistakenly/wrongly to imply that that was untrue?

Correct.

 

[hhtt21]

Correct.

But can we say "not exactly because if somebody says his or her friends suppose he is rich, then it is probably untrue, otherwise he would have been said "my friends know I'm rich."

 

[jutfrank]

But can we say "not exactly because if somebody says his or her friends suppose he is rich, then it is probably untrue, otherwise he would have been said "my friends know I'm rich."

Sorry, I don't follow.

 

[teechar]

But can we say "not exactly" because if somebody says his or her friends suppose he/she is rich, then it is probably untrue? Otherwise, he would have [STRIKE]been[/STRIKE] said "My friends know I'm rich."

Is that what you meant?

 

[hhtt21]

Is that what you meant?

Above is precisely what I mean to say. Thank you very much for your corrections. I intended the above as a respond to JutFrank's "correct" in the previous post of it.

 

[jutfrank]

I still don't follow. Not exactly what?

When I said "Correct", I was agreeing with what you said: suppose and imagine do not need the adverbs falsely/mistakenly to make the implication that you are not in fact rich.

 

[teechar]

hhtt21, jutfrank's "correct" couldn't be any clearer. If you want to ask about other structures in English, start new threads. Do not divert a thread unnecessarily.

 

[GoesStation]

"On second thoughts" means "I have thought about it again and have come to a different conclusion".

We use the singular on this side of the pond: "On second thought ...."

 

[GoesStation]

Above is precisely what I mean to say. Thank you very much for your corrections. I intended the above as a response to JutFrank's "correct" in the previous post of it.

The noun is "response". "Respond" is a verb.

 

[hhtt21]

The noun is "response". "Respond" is a verb.

How is this?

"I intended to respond JutFrank's "correct" in the previous post of it." Which one is more idiomatic?

 

[teechar]

in the previous post of it.

That doesn't work. Say it using other words.

 

[hhtt21]

That doesn't work. Say it using other words.

I don't have any better idea how I can say it in a correct way if it is wrong. If you grasped what I meant to say would you please introduce the correct way?