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    Question Subject Verb Object (identify the factors)

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    When tuning a database, it is important to have an established baseline for later comparison when the system is running poorly. A baseline data point helps identify the factors to check when diagnosing new performance problems.

    I found the above sentence from Oracle online document Using Statspack, and I think that "identify the factors" should be change to "identification the factors" according to SVO (sentence structure),

    Which word is correct? identify or identification ? and WHY?

    Thanks.
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    Default Re: Subject Verb Object (identify the factors)

    Quote Originally Posted by fenglish View Post
    Hi,

    When tuning a database, it is important to have an established baseline for later comparison when the system is running poorly. A baseline data point helps identify the factors to check when diagnosing new performance problems.

    I found the above sentence from Oracle online document Using Statspack, and I think that "identify the factors" should be change to "identification the factors" according to SVO (sentence structure),

    Which word is correct? identify or identification ? and WHY?

    Thanks.
    ***NOT A TEACHER***fenglish, good morning. (1) I believe that "identify" is correct. (2) A baseline data point (subject) + helps (verb) + (to) identify the factors....(infinitive phrase used as object). Thank you.
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    Default Re: Subject Verb Object (identify the factors)

    I also think "identify" is correct, but for a slightly different reason: the object in this sentence is omitted (in this case I would understood it as referring to "people in general").

    Compare: "A baseline datapoint always helps." (Object not expressed)

    It would also be possible to say: "...helps identification of the factors", in which case the whole long phrase from "identification" onwards functions as the object.
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