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    lselin, no native speaker will think of metal if the words 'sheet of paper' are written!

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    I too looked it up after I answered. The context makes it immediately clear what the thin sheet is, but I still don't know what the conical points are. (I thought points have no dimension, so how they can be conical remains a mystery.)

    I don't have any "immediate connotation" for "sheet." I think coating of something, like ice, a bed sheet, a sheet of paper. Metal is one of the last things I'd think of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyota View Post
    What one thinks depends on the context, so I'll just paste the link to the source now, if you don't mind. :)

    Aluminised Mylar Brr
    nyota, first, my question was specificly addressed to native speakers of English. My intention wasn't to make fool of them, but to analyze the matter I described above. If I'd needed them to read the text or to have context, I would have placed this link here from the very beginning. Many of native speakers I asked named aluminium or metal first. That seems exciting to me, as I would never think of aluminium, probably paper at the most. And what you or I think is irrelevant here, as we are not native speakers.

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    Thanks for your answers! But it doesn't make sence to discuss it now that you have a spesific image in your head. I can only say what I have: most of native speakers I asked said they had no clue and afterwards named metal or aluminium. It's a fact)). Thanks still! Your answers helped me a lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lselin View Post
    nyota,.... And what you or I think is irrelevant here, as we are not native speakers.
    Whether or not nyota is a native speaker is relevant when she says, "What one thinks depends on the context".

    I don't know how many native speakers you asked, or what their background was, but I have to say that I am surprised that they named aluminium or metal first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    I too looked it up after I answered. The context makes it immediately clear what the thin sheet is, but I still don't know what the conical points are. (I thought points have no dimension, so how they can be conical remains a mystery.)
    In this picture, you will see the Earth, the Sun and five points: L1, L2, L3, L4 and L5. They are the points where a small object will be stationary relative to the Sun and the Earth as they revolve. L1 is sometimes called the conical point according to McGraw-Hill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    Whether or not nyota is a native speaker is relevant when she says, "What one thinks depends on the context".

    I don't know how many native speakers you asked, or what their background was, but I have to say that I am surprised that they named aluminium or metal first.
    I didn't say, that she wasn't right. And it wasn't against her as non-native speaker, as I am that too. I understand that context is always key to understanding something. However, it wasn't the goal here, which I specificly made clear.

    As for metal, even those who named it, were surprised about the fact that they named it. But they named it. I am surprised too. But these details are what makes a foreign language interesting to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lselin View Post
    nyota, first, my question was specificly addressed to native speakers of English. Which is why I didn't give my interpretation.

    My intention wasn't to make fool of them, but to analyze the matter I described above. I believe I didn't refer to your intentions in any of my posts.

    If I'd needed them to read the text or to have context, I would have placed this link here from the very beginning. You're right, I should've left it to you. Useless now but my apologies.

    Many of native speakers I asked named aluminium or metal first. That seems exciting to me, as I would never think of aluminium, probably paper at the most. And what you or I think is irrelevant here, as we are not native speakers. Again, I didn't say what I thought on the specific matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyota View Post
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    nyota, you don't have to apologize. The conversation was then over. Normally, this is the time, when one-two people place their extended comments. You couldn't have known this. Yes, I was a bit angry about the link)), but again, you couldn't have known what my intention was. It's all right, really. Therewith, youre intentions were good)).

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