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Hi everyone! I need opinions from native speakers of English. Please don't look up on the internet or in a dictionary, just tell me what comes into your mind! Thank you!

'A crushed thin sheet is essentially a mass of conical points connected by curved energy-storing ridges.'

What does 'thin sheet' mean here?
 

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I have no idea what any of that means at all.
 

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That makes three of us - unless it's just meant to be the sheet you put on a bed.
 

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I think they have energy-storing ridges on the rippled chips I like so much. ;-)
 

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Thanks for your unanimous opinion))! And if I ask this way: What material could this thin sheet be made of?
 

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It could be made of steel or aluminum or glass or cotton or any number of things.
 

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Why is it so important that we don't know the context? Which I've already checked anyway. I'm awful.
 

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Why is it so important that we don't know the context? Which I've already checked anyway. I'm awful.
you're not awfull. I would have done the same).
By the way, I actually already got all the information I needed.

When I first read the text, I was sure a piece of paper was ment. But then I checked online and it seemed to be a common collocation for a thin piece of metal. However, I wasn't sure, every native speaker of English would automatically think of metal. But it seems to me, I was wrong.

Thank you all for your answers! :up:
 

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When I first read the text, I was sure a piece of paper was ment. But then I checked online and it seemed to be a common collocation for a thin piece of metal. However, I wasn't sure, every native speaker of English would automatically think of metal. But it seems to me, I was wrong.

What one thinks depends on the context, so I'll just paste the link to the source now, if you don't mind. :)

Scientific American - A New Report Explains the Physics of Crumpled Paper. Aluminised Mylar :-? Brr
 

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lselin, no native speaker will think of metal if the words 'sheet of paper' are written!
 

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I too looked it up after I answered. The context makes it immediately clear what the thin sheet is, but I still don't know what the conical points are. (I thought points have no dimension, so how they can be conical remains a mystery.)

I don't have any "immediate connotation" for "sheet." I think coating of something, like ice, a bed sheet, a sheet of paper. Metal is one of the last things I'd think of.
 
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What one thinks depends on the context, so I'll just paste the link to the source now, if you don't mind. :)

Aluminised Mylar Brr

nyota, first, my question was specificly addressed to native speakers of English. My intention wasn't to make fool of them, but to analyze the matter I described above. If I'd needed them to read the text or to have context, I would have placed this link here from the very beginning. Many of native speakers I asked named aluminium or metal first. That seems exciting to me, as I would never think of aluminium, probably paper at the most. And what you or I think is irrelevant here, as we are not native speakers.
 

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Thanks for your answers! But it doesn't make sence to discuss it now that you have a spesific image in your head. I can only say what I have: most of native speakers I asked said they had no clue and afterwards named metal or aluminium. It's a fact)). Thanks still! Your answers helped me a lot!
 

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nyota,.... And what you or I think is irrelevant here, as we are not native speakers.
Whether or not nyota is a native speaker is relevant when she says, "What one thinks depends on the context".

I don't know how many native speakers you asked, or what their background was, but I have to say that I am surprised that they named aluminium or metal first.
 

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I too looked it up after I answered. The context makes it immediately clear what the thin sheet is, but I still don't know what the conical points are. (I thought points have no dimension, so how they can be conical remains a mystery.)
In this picture, you will see the Earth, the Sun and five points: L1, L2, L3, L4 and L5. They are the points where a small object will be stationary relative to the Sun and the Earth as they revolve. L1 is sometimes called the conical point according to McGraw-Hill.
 

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Whether or not nyota is a native speaker is relevant when she says, "What one thinks depends on the context".

I don't know how many native speakers you asked, or what their background was, but I have to say that I am surprised that they named aluminium or metal first.

I didn't say, that she wasn't right. And it wasn't against her as non-native speaker, as I am that too. I understand that context is always key to understanding something. However, it wasn't the goal here, which I specificly made clear.

As for metal, even those who named it, were surprised about the fact that they named it. But they named it. I am surprised too. But these details are what makes a foreign language interesting to me.
 

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nyota, first, my question was specificly addressed to native speakers of English. Which is why I didn't give my interpretation.

My intention wasn't to make fool of them, but to analyze the matter I described above. I believe I didn't refer to your intentions in any of my posts.

If I'd needed them to read the text or to have context, I would have placed this link here from the very beginning. You're right, I should've left it to you. Useless now but my apologies.

Many of native speakers I asked named aluminium or metal first. That seems exciting to me, as I would never think of aluminium, probably paper at the most. And what you or I think is irrelevant here, as we are not native speakers. Again, I didn't say what I thought on the specific matter.

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nyota, you don't have to apologize. The conversation was then over. Normally, this is the time, when one-two people place their extended comments. You couldn't have known this. Yes, I was a bit angry about the link)), but again, you couldn't have known what my intention was. It's all right, really. Therewith, youre intentions were good)).
 
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