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*the* NHK fee collector
According to the lawyer’s investigation, Tengo was the only child of his mother and his father, the NHK fee collector, a fact recorded in his family register.
(H. Murakami; 1Q84)
Is it possible to say 'an NHK fee collector' here?
How would it change the meaning?
Thanks.
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Re: *the* NHK fee collector
Was he the one and only fee collector? Then he is the collector.
If he is one of many, then he is an NHK collector.
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Re: *the* NHK fee collector

Originally Posted by
susiedq
Was he the one and only fee collector? Then he is the collector.
If he is one of many, then he is an NHK collector.
I don't think he was the only one. The company can't be relied upon a sole NHK collector if the fee is supposed to be collected literally from all over Japan.
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Re: *the* NHK fee collector
***** NOT A TEACHER *****
(1) May I just add a note to susiedq's great answer.
(2) I think that IF his father had been mentioned as an NHK fee collector earlier in the
novel, then "the" would be the only "correct" word in your sentence. The "the" would
then refer to the previously mentioned person.
(3) It always helps me to remember that "the" is something like "that." So maybe
your sentence means something like:
Tengo was the only child of his mother and his father, that NHK collector who was
mentioned earlier in the novel, ...
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Re: *the* NHK fee collector
Yes, TheParser, he was actually mentioned earlier in the novel.
Do you mean by 'then "the" would be the only "correct" word in your sentence.' that you would view 'an' as an "incorrect" word (taking into account the fact that he was mentioned earlier)?
Thanks.
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Re: *the* NHK fee collector

Originally Posted by
suprunp
you would view 'an' as an "incorrect" word (taking into account the fact that he was mentioned earlier
***** NOT A TEACHER *****
(1) YES (if he was identified earlier as a fee collector).
(2) Consider this horrible example of mine:
Page 15: Tom is a teacher.
Page 126: Mona finally met someone who respected her. Who was it? Was it
Joe? Was it Ralph? No. Believe it or not, it was Tom, the teacher.
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Re: *the* NHK fee collector
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If we said this to somebody who in fact does not know the person, they would almost certainly assume that there is only one moderator; misunderstanding is possible.
If we are speaking to someone who does not know the forum, we might say, "bhaisahab, a moderator, wrote ...", in which his role is given as fresh information.
Context is important. Please provide enough for us to be able to deal effectively with your question.
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