[Idiom] Cut off one's nose to spite one's face

[vil]

Dear teachers,

Would you be kind enough to explain to me the proper meaning of the idiom “Cut off one’s nose to spite one’s face”? or (“cut her nose to spite her face”, or “cut off their nose to spite their faces)

I know the following interpretation which stands in many dictionaries: “to create a disadvantage to oneself through one's own spiteful action “.

There is another expression: “Don't cut off your nose to spite your face” - don't do something that ... or makes your life hard just so you can spite someone else or get one up on them.

In my opinion there is something wrong in the expressions in question.

Thank you for your efforts.

Regards

V.

[colloquium]

I think the explanations you have quoted are fairly accurate.

A) I'm thinking of quitting my job.

B) Why?

A) It pays terrible money and I hate the people I work with with.

B) But you need the money! If you quit you won't be able to pay your bills. You'd be better off looking for another job while you're working. Don't cut off your nose to spite your face!

In other words - don't allow a poorly thought out short term solution create even greater problems in the long run.

I'm not a teacher.

[stella1977]

Originally Posted by vil

Dear teachers,

Would you be kind enough to explain to me the proper meaning of the idiom “Cut off one’s nose to spite one’s face”? or (“cut her nose to spite her face”, or “cut off their nose to spite their faces)

I know the following interpretation which stands in many dictionaries: “to create a disadvantage to oneself through one's own spiteful action “.

There is another expression: “Don't cut off your nose to spite your face” - don't do something that ... or makes your life hard just so you can spite someone else or get one up on them.

In my opinion there is something wrong in the expressions in question.

Thank you for your efforts.

Regards

V.

Check this link for the above-mentioned idiom:http://www.answers.com/
It is an informal idiom meaning harming oneself out of pique,meaning that due to the fact that you were angry,you did or said sth to provoke and harm the other person, which consequently harmed you.

Negative sentence has negative connotation.
In my opinion, the sentence is perfectly fine.

[Raymott]

Originally Posted by vil

Dear teachers,

Would you be kind enough to explain to me the proper meaning of the idiom “Cut off one’s nose to spite one’s face”? or (“cut her nose to spite her face”, or “cut off their nose to spite their faces)

I know the following interpretation which stands in many dictionaries: “to create a disadvantage to oneself through one's own spiteful action “.

There is another expression: “Don't cut off your nose to spite your face” - don't do something that ... or makes your life hard just so you can spite someone else or get one up on them.

In my opinion there is something wrong in the expressions in question.

Thank you for your efforts.

Regards

V.

Do you mean it should be more like "to cut off one's nose to spite someone else's face"?

[vil]

Hi colloquium, Stella1977 and Raymott,

Thank you for your straightforward and well-meant intentions towards me. Thank you also for your well-grounded explanations and articulated arguments.

What prompted me to put the question in my original post? They must be probably my unconscionable radicalism as well as my inadequately managing of English language.

There is my crooked interpretation of the expression in question:

“Do you mean it should be more like "to cut off one's nose to spite someone else's face?" (Raymott’s question)

Yes, I do. I have an edge on someone, have/bear a grudge against someone; I have spite against someone else;

Yes, you are in the right. The present expression is “a warning against spiteful revenge which results in one's own hurt or loss”.

Do you know the following expressions?

“Burn one’s house to rid it of the mouse”. “Don’t burn your house to rid of the mouse!”

“Throw out the child along with the bath.” Don’t throw the child along with the bath!”

Thank you again for your kindness.

Regards

V.

[Raymott]

Originally Posted by vil

“Throw out the child along with the bath.” Don’t throw the child along with the bath!”

Yes, generally said as "Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater".
In the "nose/face" idiom, you might just have to accept that it doesn't strictly make sense.

[Tdol]

Originally Posted by vil

Do you know the following expressions?

“Burn one’s house to rid it of the mouse”. “Don’t burn your house to rid of the mouse!”

I didn't, but I do like it. I would say 'Don't burn your house down to get rid of the mouse.'

[VSPrasad]

Injure oneself out of pique. For example, Staying home because Meg was invited first is cutting off your nose to spite your face. Similar hyperboles appeared in several Latin proverbs; in English the expression was first recorded in 1561.

http://www.answers.com/topic/cut-off...ite-one-s-face

Proverbs:

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face

A warning against spiteful revenge which results in one's own hurt or loss. The metaphorical phrase to cut off one's nose to spite one's face is very frequently found. Cf. medieval L. male ulciscitur dedecus sibi illatum, qui amputat nasum suum, he who cuts off his nose takes poor revenge for a shame inflicted on him; mid 14th-cent. Fr. qui cope son nès, sa face est despechie, the man who cuts off his nose spites his face.

He that byteth hys nose of, shameth hys face.
[c 1560 Deceit of Women I1]

He cut off his nose to be revenged of his face, said of one who, to be revenged of his neighbour, has materially injured himself.
[1788 F. Grose Dict. Vulgar Tongue (ed. 2) U3V]

He was in that humour when a man—in the words of the old adage—will cut off his nose to spite his face.
[1889 R. L. Stevenson Master of Ballantrae x.]

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.
[1964 Ridout & Witting English Proverbs Explained 43]

So the next thing anybody knew she'd run off an' married that no-good Bob Bascom an' if that ain't cuttin' off your nose to spite your face, I'd like to know what is.

[1980 A. Craig Pint of Murder vi.]

http://www.answers.com/topic/don-t-c...pite-your-face

Cut off your nose to spite your face

Meaning - Disadvantage yourself in order to do harm to an adversary.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/106875.html