[Grammar] Confused with possessive Noun

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I have always confused with Possessive Noun. For Example

1. I will send you the book tomorrow morning
Question: Could we put tomorrow's morning to show possession?

2. I will put up this question in tomorrow's meeting.
Question: Could we just put tomorrow meeting without apostrophe S similat
to Question 1?

3. Chelsea Manager was sacked yesterday.
Question: Could we use Chelsea's Manager to show the manager belong to Chelsea?

4. Chelsea's best player this year is Christian Pulisic.
Question: If question 3 could omit 's, why need sentence need to put 's?

5. a) There is no Deputy Prime Minister's post in UK
b) There is no Deputy Prime Minister post in UK
Question: Which one is correct?
 
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I have always been confused [STRIKE]with[/STRIKE] by possessive nouns. For example:

1. I will send you the book tomorrow morning.
Question: Could we put "tomorrow's" morning to show possession? No. "Tomorrow" doesn't own a morning. "Tomorrow morning" is a compound noun, effectively making it just one noun.

2. I will put up this question in tomorrow's meeting.
Question: Could we just put "tomorrow meeting" without apostrophe S similar to question 1? No. In this case, you can consider that the specific meeting in question belongs to tomorrow. That's when it's going to happen. "Tomorrow" and "meeting" are two separate entities, not a compound noun.

3. Chelsea manager was sacked yesterday. :cross: This is wrong. Use either "The Chelsea manager" or "Chelsea's manager".
Question: Could we use "Chelsea's manager" to show the manager belongs to Chelsea? See above. Also, the manager doesn't "belong" to Chelsea. He manages them. He works for them.

4. Chelsea's best player this year is Christian Pulisic.
Question: If question 3 could omit "'s", why [STRIKE]need[/STRIKE] does this sentence need it? [STRIKE]to put 's?[/STRIKE] In this case, the player does, in a way, belong to the club. They bought him!

5. a) There is no Deputy Prime Minister's post in UK.
b) There is no Deputy Prime Minister post in UK.
Question: Which one is correct? They are both possible. Note, though, that the post still exists - it's just that currently no one holds that position.

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Welcome to the forum. :hi:

Please read my corrections (in red) and my responses/comments (in blue) above.

Thanks for the correction and reply. How about examples below:

1. Newcastle manager Steve Bruce believes going to supermarket.... (excerpt form AFP)
Question: Do we need to put "The" in front of "Newcastle"

2. a) UK government gave a permission to start the sports in June
b) UK's governent gave a permission to start the sport in June
Question: Could we put 'S to show possession?

3. a) Manchester City's Raheem Sterling is one of the high profile players....
b) Manchester City Raheem Sterling is one of the high profile player...
Question: Why the "b" sentence no correct?


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Thanks for the corrections and reply. How about the examples below?

1. Newcastle manager Steve Bruce believes going to supermarket.... (excerpt form AFP)
Question: Do we need to put "The" in front of "Newcastle"? It's optional here. I'm still trying to work out why!

2. a) The UK government gave [STRIKE]a[/STRIKE] (no article here) permission to start [STRIKE]the[/STRIKE] playing sports in June.
b) UK's government gave a permission to start [STRIKE]the[/STRIKE] playing sport in June.
Question: Could we put "'s" to show possession? No, but if you add "The" before "UK's" it's possible, although a bit unnatural.

3. a) Manchester City's Raheem Sterling is one of the high profile players....
b) Manchester City Raheem Sterling is one of the high profile player...
Question: Why [STRIKE]the[/STRIKE] is sentence "b" sentence not correct? See my explanation of sentence 4 in post #2.


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There's an important grammatical difference between Chelsea manager Frank Lampard and Chelsea's best player Tammy Abraham.

Chelsea manager Frank Lampard

This doesn't need an apostrophe because it gives a position/role before a name. You could do the same with players, for example, Chelsea striker Tammy Abraham or Chelsea keeper Kepa. Don't use the before the role in phrases like this where you follow with a person's name. If you say only the blue part without the name, you can use the, but only if required.

Chelsea's best player Tammy Abraham

This does need an apostrophe because it is possessive. The description 'best player' is not a role/position.

As far as meaning is concerned, you can think of Chelsea as 'possessing' both Mr Lampard and Mr Abraham, since they are both employed by Chelsea in the same way. Grammatically, though, only the second sentence above is possessive.
 
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a) Manchester City's Raheem Sterling is one of the high profile players....
b) Manchester City Raheem Sterling is one of the high profile player...
Question: Why the "b" sentence no correct?

Manchester City Raheem Sterling :cross:

Manchester City is not a position/role. It is the name of a club. Sterling belongs to that club so you need to make a possessive noun phrase.
 
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