[Grammar] I don't like the 'fashion' category of/in the magazine.

[kadioguy]

[My original sentences]

a. I don't like the 'fashion' category of the magazine.

b. I don't like the 'fashion' category in the magazine.

c. I don't like the expressions of Tom's post.

d. I don't like the expressions in Tom's post.

Which one in each pair should I use (and why)?

I would say that (a) and (b) are both OK, but that only (d) is OK in its pair. Because sentence (c) is like Tom's post (not Tom himself) can use expressions.

What do you think?

[Cross-posted with GoesStation]

 

[GoesStation]

I don't like the Fashion section in the magazine or, more naturally, the magazine's Fashion section.

I'm not sure what the last two sentences are trying to say, but they need in.

 

[kadioguy]

I'm not sure what the last two sentences are trying to say, but they need in.

My scenario is, for example, Tom said something rude or something offensive in his post.

 

[kadioguy]

I don't like the Fashion section in the magazine or, more naturally, the magazine's Fashion section.

The right host, who is a native English speaker, says "And today in our 'the origins' category of your magazine ..."

Does that sound not good to you?

[At 0:19]

 

[jutfrank]

I guess I would assume he's right, but we can't know for sure because we don't know what he means. What is 'the origins category'? In what sense can a magazine have a category? He doesn't mean 'section', if that's what you think. Or rather, if he does, he's used the wrong word.

 

[YAMATO2201]

expressions

I guess you mean "wording".

 

[kadioguy]

I guess I would assume he's right, but we can't know for sure because we don't know what he means. What is 'the origins category'? In what sense can a magazine have a category? He doesn't mean 'section', if that's what you think. Or rather, if he does, he's used the wrong word.

I don't know if it is called a 'topic', 'section', 'category' or something.

Take this for example, you will see different articles below 'THE ORIGINS' about the origin of something in this monthly English language magazine (and there are other topics in the magazine).

For this month: [at the top-left corner]

PS - But how about the preposition, 'of' or 'in'? I'm a little confused. Is sentence (a) in post #1 OK? GoesStation didn't choose it, but you say that you would assume it is right to say 'And today in our "the origins" category of your magazine ...'. :-?

 

[jutfrank]

The preposition of apears to be fine, but I don't see how category is the right word, if he just means 'section'. To be honest, I don't really understand what I'm watching or what they're doing. What does your magazine refer to?

 

[kadioguy]

The preposition of apears to be fine, but I don't see how category is the right word, if he just means 'section'.

I would say the logic could be, for example, there are twenty articles every month in this English language magazine (an article for a day, or sometimes a longer article for two days) and these articles are divided into several categories according to their topics.

To be honest, I don't really understand what I'm watching or what they're doing. What does your magazine refer to?

I think that means that they are thinking that you have got a copy of the magazine in your hand (i.e., you have bought one).

 

[kadioguy]

So could you please tell me why (a) is inappropriate while (b) isn't?

a. I don't like the 'fashion' category of the magazine.

e. And today in our "the origins" category of your magazine.

 

[GoesStation]

So could you please tell me why (a) is inappropriate while (b) isn't?

a. I don't like the 'fashion' category of the magazine.

e. And today in our "the origins" category of your magazine.

"Category" doesn't fit in either sentence. Sentence E is even less natural than sentence A.

 

[kadioguy]

So could you please tell me why (a) is inappropriate while (b) isn't?

a. I don't like the 'fashion' category of the magazine.

e. And today in our "the origins" category of your magazine.

"Category" doesn't fit in either sentence. Sentence E is even less natural than sentence A.

How about the preposition 'of'? Is it OK here? Or is 'in' better?

 

[emsr2d2]

Given that "category" doesn't work, there's really no point working out which preposition should go with it.

 

[kadioguy]

Given that "category" doesn't work, there's really no point working out which preposition should go with it.

f. I don't like the Fashion section of the magazine

g. I don't like the Fashion section in the magazine

h. I don't like the wording of Tom's post.

i. I don't like the wording in Tom's post.

If you don't mind, could you help me with them? I would think them all are correct, but (g) and (i) are more common than (f) and (h). Is that right? :-?

 

[Tarheel]

I don't know if it's called a topic, category, section, or something.

You left out something.

 

[Tarheel]

f. I don't like the Fashion section of the magazine

g. I don't like the Fashion section in the magazine

h. I don't like the wording of Tom's post.

i. I don't like the wording in Tom's post.

If you don't mind, could you help me with them? I would think they all are correct, but (g) and (i) are more common than (f) and (h). Is that right? :-?

I prefer of in those examples.

 

[kadioguy]

I don't know if it's called a topic, category, section, or something.

You left out something.

Could you please tell me? I can't guess that. :-?

 

[Tarheel]

else

I don't know if it's called a topic, category, section, or something else.

 

[emsr2d2]

f. I don't like the Fashion section of the magazine
g. I don't like the Fashion section in the magazine
h. I don't like the wording of Tom's post.
i. I don't like the wording in Tom's post.

If you don't mind, could you help me with them? I [STRIKE]would[/STRIKE] think [STRIKE]them all are[/STRIKE] they are all correct, but (g) and (i) are more common than (f) and (h). Is that right? :-?

For me, they're all possible but f) and h) are more likely than g) and i).

 

[kadioguy]

else
I don't know if it's called a topic, category, section, or something else.

j. I don't know if it's called a topic, category, section, or something.

k. I don't know if it's called a topic, category, section, or something else.

Do (j) and (k) both work here?

I used (j) in the following way:
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... or something

spoken used when you cannot remember, or do not think it is necessary to give, another example of something you are mentioning

Her name was Judith, or Julie, or something.

Here’s some money. Get yourself a sandwich or something.

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