Would you say "He has died since 2011" to mean the death happened some time between 2011 and now?c. is not wrong. It means that the graduation happened some time between 2011 and now.
Would you say "He has died since 2011" to mean the death happened some time between 2011 and now?
Some people, including me, can come up with (not ridiculously unlikely) contexts, in which that sentence is possible. Therefore, to say simply that it is incorrect is misleading.
For those who take what has so far been the popular reading of "I have graduated from college since 2011," how would you interpret it with sentential negation?
I haven't graduated from college since 2011.
Doesn't that mean "The last time I graduated from college was in 2011"?
I totally agree with you that the sentence "I haven't graduated from college since 2011" is unlikely to occur. Indeed, I should think that it would be even less likely to occur than "I have graduated from college since 2011."I would find "I haven't graduated from college since 2011" completely unlikely. Like being born and dying, graduating from college is something you do once. If you said that you had graduated from college in 2011, no one would think you had done it again in the intervening period. . . .
JohUn: I've graduated from college since 2011.
Sarah: What? Just once? Wow. I've graduated from college twelve times since 2002.
But can't someone be said to graduate from college more than once if he or she is graduated by different colleges at different times and receives a different degree each time? If not, I shall have to forfeit my position on the sentence in question.
Is it really impossible (i.e., grammatically illegitimate) for John to answer, "No, when I said 'I have graduated from college since 2011,' I meant that I have graduated from college PERIODICALLY, starting in 2011; come over sometime and I'll show you my many diplomas"?
This learner would say the following instead of using the present perfect to express the above.the graduation happened some time between 2011 and now.
This learner would say the following instead of using the present perfect to express the above.
"I graduated from college in a certain year after 2011."
"I graduated from college sometime after 2011."I graduated from college somewhere after 2011.
But what about (a) and (b)?"I graduated from college sometime after 2011."
I think this thread is getting silly.
A: Hi, John. Long time no see.
B: Hi Tom. How are you? You're looking good."
A: Thanks, you too. So, are you working now?
B: Yes, I've got a great job in IT.
A: But you told me, oh, back in 2011 I think, that you had no job prospects.
B: Ah, but I've graduated from college since 2011.
A: You've been graduating continuously since 2011?
B: Huh?
Does (a) mean (a1) or (a2)?[/FONT]a. The city has changed greatly since 2012. [O]
b. I have changed my address since last year.[O]
I think this thread is getting silly.
A: Hi, John. Long time no see.
B: Hi Tom. How are you? You're looking good."
A: Thanks, you too. So, are you working now?
B: Yes, I've got a great job in IT.
A: But you told me, oh, back in 2011 I think, that you had no job prospects.
B: Ah, but I've graduated from college since 2011.
A: You've been graduating continuously since 2011?
B: Huh?
Your original post correctly indicated that a and b were unproblematic.But what about (a) and (b)?
I guess it's possible. It's not how anyone I know would phrase it. That's all I can say.
D: I've graduated from college since 2011. The first time was then. Then I picked up another B.A. in 2013. In 2015, I got an M.A. Now I'm finally getting my Ph.D.
Having read the teachers' opinions, I think both are possible.(a1) The city has been changing greatly continuously since 2012.
(a2) The city changed greatly after 2012.
I guess it's possible.
No, I understood that this was your claim:
"I think (c) suggests that the speaker's graduating from college happened again and again between 2011 and now."
I'm conceding that it could, at a stretch, mean that - not that that meaning would strike most people as being the most plausible in the absence of a context.