Range/top

[Rachel Adams]

Hello.

Can I use the word ''top'' instead of ''range'' and can I say ''Chersky top?''

1. ''You can climb the top of the mountain (speaking about the Chersky range) which is 3,003 metres high.''
2. ''You can climb the Chersky range/top which is 3, 003 meters high.''
3. ''You can climb Chersky top which is 3,003 meters high.''

 

[GoesStation]

Neither "range" nor "top" works. A mountain range is a collection of mountains, and a mountaintop is the summit which you may reach when you've finished climbing. Once you reach the summit, there's nothing left to climb.

 

[Yankee]

Hello.

Can I use the word ''top'' instead of ''range'' and can I say ''Chersky top?''

1. ''You can climb to the top of the mountain (speaking about the Chersky range) which is 3,003 metres high.''
2. ''You can climb (or 'hike') the Chersky range[STRIKE]/top[/STRIKE] which is 3, 003 meters high at its peak.''
3. ''You can climb to the Chersky top which is 3,003 meters high.''

Y

 

[Rachel Adams]

Y

Thank you! I have two questions, if you please. Would you use the word ''peak'' in all the three examples instead of ''range'' and ''top'' and why was it wrong to use ''top'' in the second example?
1. ''You can climb to the peak of the mountain which is 3,003 metres high.''
2. ''You can hike the Chersky peak which is 3, 003 meters high.''
3. ''You can climb to the Chersky peak which is 3,003 meters high.''

 

[Yankee]

Thank you! I have two questions, if you please. Would you use the word ''peak'' in all the three examples instead of ''range'' and ''top'' and why was it wrong to use ''top'' in the second example?
1. ''You can climb to the peak of the mountain which is 3,003 meters high.'' OK.
2. ''You can hike the Chersky peak which is 3, 003 meters high.'' Because "hiking" suggests a considerable distance in length and the peak itself (3,300 meters high might only be a few meters in length or substantially less than 3,003 meters. You could say "hike to".)
3. ''You can climb to the Chersky peak which is 3,003 meters high. OK. ''

Y

 

[Rachel Adams]

2. ''You can hike the Chersky peak which is 3, 003 meters high.'' Because "hiking" suggests a considerable distance in length and the peak itself (3,300 meters high might only be a few meters in length or substantially less than 3,003 meters. You could say "hike to".)

I thought if you use ''peak'' you can also use ''top.'' They are almost like synonyms.:roll:

 

[Yankee]

2. ''You can hike the Chersky peak which is 3, 003 meters high.'' Because "hiking" suggests a considerable distance in length and the peak itself (3,300 meters high might only be a few meters in length or substantially less than 3,003 meters. You could say "hike to".)

I thought if you use ''peak'' you can also use ''top.'' They are almost like synonyms.:roll:

Yes you could. Sorry if my responses were unclear.

 

[Rachel Adams]

Yes you could. Sorry if my responses were unclear.

Oh, it OK. They were clear. English itself can be very confusing sometimes. So you use them as synonyms but in the second sentence it's wrong to use ''top''. Right? In ''You can hike the Chersky top which is 3, 003 meters high at its peak.''

 

[Yankee]

Yes. It's OK. And "confusing sometimes"? Yes, even for native speakers.:shock:

 

[Rachel Adams]

That sounds strange to me.

You can hike to the top/peak/summit of a mountain, but you cannot hike it.

Is it necessary to include ''the'' before ''Chersky top?'' For example, ''You can hike to (the) Chersky top.'' I think it's mandatory but what rule is it based on?

 

[jutfrank]

Is it necessary to include ''the'' before ''Chersky top?'' For example, ''You can hike to (the) Chersky top.'' I think it's mandatory but what rule is it based on?

No, you can't say Chersky top at all. For a start, Chersky is a range, not an individual mountain, so it doesn't have a top.

You can use the highest point of the Chersky range to refer to the summit of the peak called by Wikipedia 'Peak Pobeda'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chersky_Range

 

[Rachel Adams]

No, you can't say Chersky top at all. For a start, Chersky is a range, not an individual mountain, so it doesn't have a top.

You can use the highest point of the Chersky range to refer to the summit of the peak called by Wikipedia 'Peak Pobeda'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chersky_Range

Since it doesn't have a top what would be the correct choice of the verb? For example, ''You can hike the Chersky Range.''

 

[jutfrank]

Yes, that's fine. You could also say:

You can hike through the Chersky mountains.
You can hike to the top of the Chersky mountains.

Is this for promotional material?

 

[Rachel Adams]

Yes, that's fine. You could also say:

You can hike through the Chersky mountains.
You can hike to the top of the Chersky mountains.

Is this for promotional material?

No, it isn't. I write short essays for practice.

 

[jutfrank]

The sentence doesn't sound like it belongs in an essay.

 

[Charlie Bernstein]

. . . I thought if you use ''peak'' you can also use ''top.'' . . .

Yes. And don't forget summit.

 

[Charlie Bernstein]

Oh, it OK. They were clear. English itself can be very confusing sometimes. So you use them as synonyms but in the second sentence it's wrong to use ''top''. Right? In ''You can hike to the top of Chersky, which is 3, 003 meters high at its peak.''

You can use top as long as you phrase it right.

Mind your commas.

 

[jutfrank]

Chersky is not a mountain but the name of the range. Mountain ranges don't have peaks—only mountains do.

 

[Rachel Adams]

The sentence doesn't sound like it belongs in an essay.

I am using the book Reading Challenge. I gives interesting texts and then asks students to write an essay or even a small passage on the given topic.

 

[Charlie Bernstein]

Chersky is not a mountain but the name of the range. Mountain ranges don't have peaks—only mountains do.

Oh, yeah. That's right. The original post didn't make that clear to me. So:

- It's 3,003 meters at its highest point.
- Its highest peak is 3,003 meters.
- The range's highest summit is 3,003 meters.
- The top of its tallest mountain is 3,003 meters.