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Re: Diagramming Shakespeare 11

Originally Posted by
Frank Antonson
Will you" and "nill you" are definitely two separate subordinate clauses.
That is what I was thinking from the word go. 

Originally Posted by
Frank Antonson
If you make the understood words to be "(If) Will you (it) (or) (if) nill you (it), the sentence is easy to diagram -- with compound adverbial clauses joined on a dashed line by "or". You could even consider the two clauses to be appositive noun clauses embedded in prepositional phrases -- "in the case (or condition) that you will it or in the case (or condition) that you nill it".
But, the last is pretty awkward.
Agreed.

Originally Posted by
Frank Antonson
In any case, the original 8 words are perfectly understandable to a native English speaker and, so, should be diagrammable.
Will you, nill you -- the difficulty also lies in the reversed order of subject and verb. 'whether' is usually not followed by a reversed order, thus it can't be taken as an understood word in the sentence.
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Maybe not an understood word, but I think the idea of it is implied -- possibly by the reversed order.
I will wrack my brain for comparable examples.
Let's see, "You will, you nill, I will marry you" -- not quite the same. Reversed subject/predicate order in English suggests a question. Maybe that is how the "conditionality" of "if" or "whether" is arrived at.
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"if" "or" "if" , and two "it"s are understood.
How about that?
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I like it better.
Last edited by Kondorosi; 17-Jan-2010 at 12:45.
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The trouble is that the compound subject should be able to have an understood conjunction placed within it. I guess we will just differ on this one. I say that there are two separate predications there.
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I meant this, sorry:
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Oh, I see what you are doing. You are joining the base lines to accept the conjunction and then splitting them again.
Well, I think it is awkward and I have not ever seen it done (no reason to not be the first).
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