# Super Hard Diagram

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• 07-Nov-2010, 10:29
TheParser
Super Hard Diagram
I cannot possibly R-K:

"I might as well tell the truth as continue to tell lies."

• 07-Nov-2010, 12:51
Frank Antonson
Re: Super Hard Diagram
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheParser
I cannot possibly R-K:

"I might as well tell the truth as continue to tell lies."

Reword it to "I might tell the truth as well as I might continue to tell lies well."

Treat "I might...well" as understood and use "x"'s for them. "As...as" is a correlative conjunction joining the first "well" to an adverb clause. "To tell lies" is an infinitive phrase acting as the direct object in the second clause.

Does that help?
• 07-Nov-2010, 13:37
TheParser
Re: Super Hard Diagram
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Antonson
Reword it to "I might tell the truth as well as I might continue to tell lies well."

Treat "I might...well" as understood and use "x"'s for them. "As...as" is a correlative conjunction joining the first "well" to an adverb clause. "To tell lies" is an infinitive phrase acting as the direct object in the second clause.

Does that help?

Thank you so much.

That really helps.

Now I have more insight into how that very much ellipted sentence

should be R-Ked .

Thanks again.
• 08-Nov-2010, 13:38
TheParser
Re: Super Hard Diagram
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Antonson
Reword it to "I might tell the truth as well as I might continue to tell lies well."

Treat "I might...well" as understood and use "x"'s for them. "As...as" is a correlative conjunction joining the first "well" to an adverb clause. "To tell lies" is an infinitive phrase acting as the direct object in the second clause.

Does that help?

Mr. Antonson:

In the very unlikely case that one of your gifted students ever

asks you to analyze this "phrase," I thought that you would like to

know how one language professional (who makes her living grading

English exams taken by foreign learners) parses it:

I might well tell the truth (just) as I might well continue to tell lies.

Thanks again for being such a dependable resource for us all.
• 08-Nov-2010, 17:26
Frank Antonson
Re: Super Hard Diagram
I believe that she has left one of the "as"'s out.
• 08-Nov-2010, 20:01
TheParser
Re: Super Hard Diagram
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Antonson
I believe that she has left one of the "as"'s out.

Excellent point.

Another excellent and very experienced professional told me that

she would consider "as well" a phrasal adverb that modifies the

verb. I guess something like:

I / might tell [modified by "as well"] as I / might continue/ to tell/ lies.
• 08-Nov-2010, 22:37
Frank Antonson
Re: Super Hard Diagram
The problem with that is it ignores the other "as". "As...as" is working correlatively.

"As well" could be a phrasal adverb in a sentence like "I went as well", meaning "I went also".

Sometimes sentences like the original one you started with can be interpreted differently, but so far I don't see the other interpretation. I am not saying that I am right. I just mean to say that I can't yet accept the other explanation. Don't give up on me.
• 09-Nov-2010, 00:48
TheParser
Re: Super Hard Diagram
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Antonson
The problem with that is it ignores the other "as". "As...as" is working correlatively.

"As well" could be a phrasal adverb in a sentence like "I went as well", meaning "I went also".

Sometimes sentences like the original one you started with can be interpreted differently, but so far I don't see the other interpretation. I am not saying that I am right. I just mean to say that I can't yet accept the other explanation. Don't give up on me.

Yes, I see what you are saying.

We could never give up on you!!!

You rock young homie!
• 10-Nov-2010, 13:20
TheParser
Re: Super Hard Diagram
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Antonson
The problem with that is it ignores the other "as". "As...as" is working correlatively.

"As well" could be a phrasal adverb in a sentence like "I went as well", meaning "I went also".

Sometimes sentences like the original one you started with can be interpreted differently, but so far I don't see the other interpretation. I am not saying that I am right. I just mean to say that I can't yet accept the other explanation. Don't give up on me.

matter, but I felt that you might like to know about something I