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Old 10-Jan-2009, 11:40
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How would you diagram the following sentence:

Watching the players destroy their opponents was fun.

What do you do with "destroy their opponents"? How is it functioning within the gerund phrase?
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It's a complement: [G watching + O the players + C destroy their opponents] (Note, the object is the subject of the bare infinitive destroy.)


Verb(al)s of perceptionhear, see, watch — and a handful of other verbs — help, let, and make — take a bare infinitive, an infinitive without the particle "to":


Verb: We watched the players destroy their opponents.
Gerund: Watching the players destroy their opponents ...
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Wow, Soup, that helps a lot, but I can't find anyone who knows how to diagram something like that. Do you treat "destroy" like a subject complement without a linking verb (i.e.: Watching|players\destroy) , or do you treat it like an adjectival infinitive and diagram it underneath "players"?

Thanks so much for your time and knowkedge!
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It branches off the noun it modifies. After all 'the players' functions as the bare infinitive's subject.
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Using the Reed-Kellogg method, would this be correct then?

Watch-
.........|ing | players | was \ fun
.................\the \(to) destroy| opponents
............................................. \their


(Ignore the dots - it's the only way I could get the diagram to space correctly and the 'the', '(to)', and 'their" would all slant down the slashed line (which I obviously can't do on the computer).

Thanks so much Soup; this has really been troubling me!
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Yes, if 'destroy their opponents' branches from 'players'.

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GP watching the players destroy their opponents
GP branches to G and NP
G watching
NP the players destroy their opponents
NP branches to N and VP
N the players
VP destroy their opponents
VP branches to V and NP
V destroy
NP their opponents


[GP Watching [NP-SUBJ the players [VP destroy their opponents]]]

Where VP branches to [V destroy [NP-Object their opponents]]
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thank you

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Just a note: this is an objective complemement, not a subjective complement. It's the direct object being completed, not the subject.
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