A teacher, especially if knowing how to handle classroom misconduct, can make a huge difference

[Afshin]

Hi, I'm trying a subtly displaced reduced adverb clause, but I'm not sure if it's fine:

"A teacher, especially if knowing how to handle classroom misconduct, can make a huge difference" .

 

[emsr2d2]

Hi. I'm trying to write a sentence with a subtly displaced reduced adverb clause, but I'm not sure if it's fine OK/correct:

"A teacher, especially if knowing they know how to handle classroom misconduct, can make a huge difference."

I have no idea what a "subtly displaced reduced adverb clause" is but, with my change above, it's a grammatically correct sentence.

 

[Afshin]

I have no idea what a "subtly displaced reduced adverb clause" is but, with my change above, it's a grammatically correct sentence.

Thank you very much indeed, but I want to know whether the original sentence, which I suppose is the reduced form of what you recommend, is correct or not!

 

[emsr2d2]

If it had been correct, I wouldn't have had to make the correction I did in post #2.

 

[jutfrank]

It's not too bad, in my view. I just wonder why you've done it. Are you just trying to see what you can get away with?

 

[Afshin]

It's not too bad, in my view. I just wonder why you've done it. Are you just trying to see what you can get away with?

Thanks a lot! BTW, am I right to feel an ore of sarcasm in your comment? If yes, is this forum about explaining English grammar or exploring people's incentives? FYI, getting ready for IELTS, I'm just trying to practice an advanced structure, namely reduction of adverb clauses, which is said to be good for GRA. Anything wrong? I had heard much better things about how much a knowledgeable European has to teach a learner from the Middle East.

 

[Afshin]

If it had been correct, I wouldn't have had to make the correction I did in post #2.

I think it's too much if I expect reasons WHY the original sentence is incorrect although I've tried to use a well-known rule, namely REDUCTION OF ADVERB CLAUSES.

 

[emsr2d2]

Thanks a lot! BTW By the way, am I right to feel an ore a modicum of sarcasm in your comment? If yes, is this forum about explaining English grammar or exploring people's incentives? FYI For information, I'm getting ready for the IELTS. I'm just trying to practice an advanced structure, namely reduction of adverb clauses, which is said to be good for GRA. Is there anything wrong with that? I had heard much better things about how much a knowledgeable European native English speaker has to teach a learner from the Middle East.

Please note my corrections above. Please don't use initialisms/acronyms/abbreviations such as "BTW" and "FYI" here. If you're getting ready to take the IELTS, you need to make sure you're writing full sentences and words.
What does "GRA" mean?

I think jutfrank might have asked "Are you just trying to see what you can get away with?" because of your use of "subtly" in post #1. It sounded (to me as well) as if you were trying to sneak something in to your sentence.

 

[emsr2d2]

I think it's too much if I to expect to be told the reasons WHY why the original sentence is incorrect although I've tried to use a well-known rule, namely REDUCTION OF ADVERB CLAUSES the "reduction of adverb clauses".

Please stop using capital letters inappropriately.

 

[jutfrank]

BTW, am I right to feel an ore of sarcasm in your comment?

No, I wasn't being sarcastic in any way. I just thought you were asking whether you could get away with breaking up the sentence by embedding the clause inside the main sentence. Is that not what you were asking?

The more normal phrasing would be to put the subordinate clause at the end of the sentence, like this:

A teacher can make a huge difference, especially if knowing how to handle classroom misconduct.

I thought you were asking about your embedded placement of the clause in question.

If yes, is this forum about explaining English grammar or exploring people's incentives? FYI, getting ready for IELTS, I'm just trying to practice an advanced structure, namely reduction of adverb clauses, which is said to be good for GRA. Anything wrong?

We help in lots of different ways on this forum, but it's always generally about use of English.

I had heard much better things about how much a knowledgeable European has to teach a learner from the Middle East.

I'm a specialist IELTS instructor, by the way, as well as being a highly experienced general English teacher. People from the Middle East make up the majority of the learners I teach.

I think jutfrank might have asked "Are you just trying to see what you can get away with?" because of your use of "subtly" in post #1. It sounded (to me as well) as if you were trying to sneak something in to your sentence.

Yes, this is precisely what I thought.

 

[Tarheel]

I am trying to wrap my head around that phrase -- so far with no success. I am sure that most native speakers have some idea what an adverb is, but I am confident that most of us have no idea what a reduced adverb clause is.

 

[Afshin]

No, I wasn't being sarcastic in any way. I just thought you were asking whether you could get away with breaking up the sentence by embedding the clause inside the main sentence. Is that not what you were asking?

The more normal phrasing would be to put the subordinate clause at the end of the sentence, like this:

A teacher can make a huge difference, especially if knowing how to handle classroom misconduct.

I thought you were asking about your embedded placement of the clause in question.



We help in lots of different ways on this forum, but it's always generally about use of English.



I'm a specialist IELTS instructor, by the way, as well as being a highly experienced general English teacher. People from the Middle East make up the majority of the learners I teach.



Yes, this is precisely what I thought.

Thank you very much indeed. I humbly apologize for having misunderstood your first comment . Thanks again.