In west Berling Vs. In west of Berlin

[English Freak]

Hello everybody,

I'd like to know the difference between these two phrases.
In the west of Berlin and In west Berlin
Would someone please clarify the difference for me?
Many thanks in advance.

 

[Mannysteps]

Not a teacher

I'd say that "In the west of Berlin" means "Situated west from Berlin" and "In west Berlin" means "in the west side of Berlin", which was occupied by the allied forces before the fall of the wall. Have you heard of "West Side Story" reffering to west Los Angeles?

 

[sunsunmoon]

Is it correct to say "In west Berlin" to mean "in the west of Berlin" or "to the west of Berlin"?


What's the difference? north , south ...
I live to the north of England. = I live in Scotland.
I live north of England.= I live in Scotland.
I live in the north of England.= I live in Yorkshire, Northumberland, Cumbria, etc.

Please respond.

 

[Ouisch]

Prior to the Berlin Wall falling down in 1989, "in West Berlin" (note the capitalization) would mean the "free" or Democratic side of Berlin (as East Berlin was on the other side of the Wall and was part of the Communist state.) Today, "in west Berlin" would be interpreted to mean a location on the west side of the city of Berlin - for example "He lives near the Havel Lakes in west Berlin."

 

[English Freak]

Thank you everybody, and sorry for my late reply.
I'd go for Mannysteps's reply.
So you mean London Heathrow Airport is "in west London" while Aylesbury or Oxford are "in the west of London".
Did I get it right?

 

[Rover_KE]

So you mean London Heathrow Airport is "in west London" while Aylesbury or Oxford are "in the west of London".

'London Heathrow Airport is in west London.' Correct.

'Aylesbury and Oxford are "in the west of London". Wrong.

'Aylesbury and Oxford are west of London' is correct, as is 'Aylesbury and Oxford are situated to the west of London'.

Rover

 

[English Freak]

Thanks a lot Rover KE.

 

[BobK]

'London Heathrow Airport is in west London.' Correct.

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Really:-? To me, Ealing (where I spent my childhood) in the west of London. It's really a western suburb of London; but in the '50s and '60s 'going shopping in town' meant catching a train into the centre. I'd say Heathrow was just to the west of London, and Oxford some way to the west of London. ;-)

And as Ouisch said, 'West Berlin' was a Cold War concept and needs a W.

b

 

[SoothingDave]

The wall through Berlin was more than conceptual.

 

[riquecohen]

Not a teacher

I'd say that "In the west of Berlin" means "Situated west from Berlin" and "In west Berlin" means "in the west side of Berlin", which was occupied by the allied forces before the fall of the wall. Have you heard of "West Side Story" reffering to west Los Angeles?

West Side Story takes place on the west side of Manhattan in New York City.